Just not sure the TIG welded guys are doing that much better these
days.  Haven't really seen Surly (or others) flying off the sales
floor this year.

Have nothing against them.  Have owned TIG made bikes in the past and
am picking up another one tomorrow.  But as others have said many
times, it's just not the "identity" of Rivendell.  I can put Nitto,
Baggins, shellac on other bikes, but that does not make them a
Rivendell.

My bigger wonder is - what if other companies started making lugged
bikes again?  Specialized has dipped it piggy that went "wee wee wee"
back into the steel bike "craze" with the '10 Allez.  And previously
with the Stumpjumper reissue.  What if they came out with those and
the Expedition?  With lugs?  Actually think it would be neat.  But
would it work in this day and age?  (Of course, Fender, not to mention
Martin, make a lot of money making guitars that look like they were
made "back in the day".  So who is to say it wouldn't work in other
areas.)

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN



On Dec 10, 7:50�pm, eflayer <eddie.fla...@att.net> wrote:
> it actually, to me, rides way better than it looks. �I have updated
> mine with Ultegra/Open Pros, B17, and upjutting Salsa SUL quill.
> Don't think I'm imagining the ride qualities. �Even sold as a touring
> bike, it seems lighter duty than that to me, and the geometry rides
> like a faster bike than the typical long wheel based, heavy tubed,
> touring machine. �Would love to hear from someone else who owns one to
> find out if I am imagining things or not.
>
> On Dec 10, 5:40�pm, newenglandbike <matthiasbe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Dec 10, 7:36 pm, eflayer <eddie.fla...@att.net> wrote:
>
> > > I feel the same as you about the ultimate aesthetic. �What got me
> > > thinking on this topic is my new tigged 2009 Fuji Touring. �It rides
> > > as good as, if not better than, any other steel bike I have ever
> > > owned. �Tigged in China. �Not so pretty of paint or quality of welds.
> > > But there is absolutely something about the frameset and the ride that
> > > is blowing my mind.
>
> > One of my local shops has a Fuji Touring set up in their window-
> > it's a nice dark evergreen color. � Kind of a british racing green I
> > suppose. � � Beautiful bike! � I'm glad to hear it rides as nice as it
> > looks.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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