I suppose ease of brake setup will vary from person to person. I find
setting up canti's a pain in the butt mostly because of the pad angle
business. Finding the right toe-in for strong braking, no squealing or
shuddering, is a bit of a dark magic for me. I usually do the old 'business
card between the pad and rim' trick, which works most of the time, but is
clumsy and awkward.

Regardless though, ease of setup should be a minor consideration when
choosing the style of brake to run IMO. I'm happy to deal with some
irritating setup now and then if it means my braking will be reliable,
powerful, smooth, etc. Afterall, how often do you need to adjust your
brakes anyway? I say that as a prairie-living cyclist with no hills, so my
brakes may go much longer between adjustment than others...



On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Patrick Moore <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Couldn't be easier" is, in my experience over 4 bikes with various cable
> disk systems, not quite accurate. It's certainly not rocket science, and *once
> you find the right method* it is straightforward, but it took me a long
> while to find that method.
>
> Sidepulls are easiest. V brakes, at least decent ones, are easy to setup,
> as are, slightly less so, wide profile cantis. Low profile cantis are a
> pain in the ass, IME. Centerpulls are much like wide profile cantis.
> Gauging all this from my own experience
>
> BB7s are about as easy as brakes requiring cable yokes, IME, and easier
> than low profiles, at least with drop bar levers.
>
> On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 10:02 AM, Mark Reimer <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Servicing discs could not be easier. Hydraulic's are a bit more finicky,
>> but they're no more difficult to dial in than my Paul canti's are. Changing
>> the pads takes 60 seconds. Actually the more I think about it, the more I
>> think discs are much easier to setup and service than rim brakes. You just
>> have to do it once to catch on.
>>
>> On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 10:56 AM, 'Stephen Kemp' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I am a satisfied rim braker. I've never seriously considered riding
>>> discs but I can see the attraction in avoiding compromised braking in the
>>> wet and annoying mud on rim grinding noises when off road.
>>>
>>> One big factor that Grant has missed is the wear effect of rim brakes.
>>> Sooner or later the rim will need replacing. That means a wheel rebuild
>>> which may well lead to getting a new hub at the same time. That's a whole
>>> new wheel just because your brakes are worn - quite a waste if you have
>>> decent, handbuilt wheels that otherwise would have lasted a long time. On a
>>> disc system, you just replace the disc.
>>>
>>> The related thing is that wear on the rim is hard to detect. You either
>>> play it safe or you take it to the limit - which you only reach when your
>>> rim is so compromised it blows. Discs are far more transparent. As Mark
>>> says above, on this basis Grant's preference for rim brakes goes against
>>> the usual argument for steel over carbon.
>>>
>>> On the issue of servicing, I've never worked on disc brakes but surely
>>> if you avoid hydraulics and stick with cable operated then servicing/repair
>>> is easy.
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