this thread makes me a little less of a riv fan :p :p On Monday, May 30, 2016 at 12:10:50 AM UTC-7, Corwin wrote: > > Hi Scott - > > At the outset, I will state - this is only my opinion. You are of course > free to buy and/or ride whatever you want. > > I don't think offering carbon bikes to or for kids is wise or appropriate. > In much the same way I do not think offering guns to kids is wise or > appropriate. Do I think this is an inappropriate analogy? No. > > You can make a choice about what risks are appropriate. Kids (and their > potentially uninformed parents) cannot make such an informed choice. > > Am I being intolerant? I don't think so. We made seat-belts in cars > mandatory when I was a kid in the 60's. Helmets were recently made > mandatory for anyone under 18 in California. Some materials are appropriate > for kids and some are not. > > Carbon fibre used elsewhere (military airframes come to mind) get much > more testing than kid's bikes. > > I have made my opinion known to Islabikes. I will not be purchasing any > bikes for my kids, grandkids or great-grandkids from them. > > At their price-point for carbon-fibre, I think sales will be limited to > those that have more money than sense. > > Namaste, > > > > Corwin > > On Friday, May 27, 2016 at 7:35:08 PM UTC-7, Skenry wrote: >> >> And that's the point that is confusing, islabike is still making the type >> of bike that you are referring to. All they are doing is offering >> consumers a choice. >> >> Intolerance and single-sightedness don't seem to be those Riv qualities >> that some of you preach on about. >> >> So it's a great company if they make only the type of bike that you >> want? But it's a bad company if they make the bike you want AND the type >> of bike that someone else may want? >> >> Wow. It's no wonder the reputation garnered here. >> On May 27, 2016 5:26 PM, "'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch" < >> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> >>> You guys are conflating the things I've written.This is not about >>> snobbery or proselytizing, not about anti this or that, not about who >>> should or should not be on the list. I did not question anyone's >>> qualifications for being on RBW. If you have actually read what I wrote >>> and the reason for my, let's face it, in the context of life, mild dismay >>> at Islabikes is not clear, I cheerfully give up! Wait, one last time: >>> >>> There is a kid's bicycle company. It appeared that they had some >>> Riv-like qualities and a similar approach to bicycles as RBW. I purchased a >>> bike from them based in some good measure on this approach. They are now >>> offering a line of kid's bikes that in many ways goes against this approach >>> toward making and selling bicycles. I am disappointed. You don't have to >>> be. Not in the slightest. >>> >>> On Friday, May 27, 2016 at 4:30:26 PM UTC-4, Daniel D. wrote: >>>> >>>> Because I like steel, I like pretty paint jobs, I like wool, I like >>>> swedish axes, I like leather saddles, I like lugs, I like racks, I like >>>> nice bags, I like the best bike shop experience ever, >>>> >>>> But what I enjoy and am willing to spend is not the end all be all . >>>> Don't get the snobbery and need for it to be a "cause". >>>> >>>> On Friday, May 27, 2016 at 11:56:27 AM UTC-7, Mark in Beacon wrote: >>>>> >>>>> And by the way, this idea that they are "filling a market" and "giving >>>>> customers what they want" is also a bit suspect. One reason RBW is such a >>>>> niche company is that the majority of people shopping for bicycles are at >>>>> the mercy of the industry, which has a vested interest in pushing certain >>>>> types of bicycles. And if you don't get that, I am truly puzzled why you >>>>> are on this list. (Note that none of this means I think people should >>>>> only >>>>> ride Rivendells, or that carbon sucks, or that people cannot have fun on >>>>> pro style racing bicycles. It's not about that per se.) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, May 27, 2016 at 11:40:55 AM UTC-4, RJM wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> There is a lot of negativity towards this company here which made me >>>>>> check the link so I can understand why, and after I still don't get it. >>>>>> >>>>>> I've never heard of this company before but I understand why they are >>>>>> making this pro line...not a lot of companies cater to the young racer >>>>>> and >>>>>> offer equipment for that. They are filling a market. If you don't >>>>>> believe >>>>>> that kids that young are racing then you aren't attending many races. >>>>>> Just >>>>>> this past weekend I worked a local mountain bike race day and there was >>>>>> a >>>>>> kid class, and they were competitive and having fun at the same time >>>>>> riding >>>>>> a smaller portion of the same trail that the adults rode on. Very >>>>>> capable >>>>>> kids. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>
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