I'll have to go and re-read everything, can't figure out how I could have understood it in reverse.
No matter what, it seems the Touring are going in the front when I get home this weekend. But I still want to understand it. René On Wednesday, August 24, 2016, Jay Lonner <jay.lon...@gmail.com> wrote: > My cantilever education is ongoing. I must have read Sheldon's guides a > dozen times over the years, but when it comes to actually getting the > brakes to work it's like being back in school where I do the reading but > blank on the test. > > Anyway, I've had Neo-Retros on my Hunq since I got it, and have never been > happy with the braking. On my most recent dive into cantilever theory and > practice (informed this time by http://www.circleacycles. > com/cantilevers/canti-geometry.pdf) I determined that wide profile cantis > like this do best with a low cable yoke. That wasn't very feasible for my > setup, because of interference from racks and fenders, so I ended up > replacing the Neo-Retros with Paul Touring cantis, and so far the braking > is much improved, although squealier. So I endorse your plan of replacing > the Neo-Retros with a set of the Touring cantis. FWIW, the mid-profile > Shimano cantis that Riv sells and endorses seem to be widely admired, and > they will be my next step if the Touring cantis disappoint me once the wet > weather returns. > > Incidentally, I have a set (i.e. one bike's worth) of Paul Neo-Retros for > sale! Inquiries welcome. > > Jay Lonner > Bellingham, WA > > > On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 4:49:20 PM UTC-7, René wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I've had Paul Cantis on my Atlantis (and Hunqapillar) since I acquired >> them. Paul Centerpulls on the Homer after using the original Silver brakes, >> and now will have Compass brazed Centerpulls on the custom. I've also read >> everything I could find, including BQ's excellent volume on brakes to >> understand how to adjust these brakes properly. >> >> The question is regarding the brakes on my Atlantis. On the front it has >> the Paul Neo-Retro and on the rear the Paul Tourer. Per my education, the >> Neo-Retro needs the cable yoke to be as high as possible and the Tourer as >> low as possible for optimal function. >> >> When braking, the rear Tourer brake which by design should be less >> powerful, feels excellent, both in braking power and modulation. In fact, I >> can brake really well with it alone, and use it primarily to slow down >> prior to turns. >> >> Braking with the front Neo-Retro feels as if it has very little power and >> is very hard to stop the bike unless you press really hard. It doesn't feel >> as if it modulates, it's just that it's hard to stop the wheel. >> >> My experience before was usually the opposite, where the rear brake >> wasn't enough on its own, but you had to be careful with the front. >> >> I changed the pads on both brakes to see if that made a difference, but >> it didn't. >> >> Is there anything I'm missing? Is that just how these brakes work? I'm >> tempted to switch the front Neo-Retros for a set of Tourer brakes that were >> in the rear of my Hunqapillar, but am concerned I won't be able to get the >> cable yoke low enough with the front rack attachment. >> >> Any feedback would be appreciated. >> >> René >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com');> > . > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com');>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
