I'll jump in here. I have ridden the Jones Plus for 18 months and a Krampus for an afternoon. There is no comparison. The Jones' handling is fast and nimble. It climbs like no other bike. The Jones has numerous design features that work together for its unique (to me) handling. The shallow head angle, 67.5 degrees, and very long rake, 76mm, create geometric trail in the mid 70s. The Krampus has a slackish HA at 69 degrees but uses a more traditional rake of 47mm (because big rake requires a radically new, or very old, fork design) that creates a very sluggish 100mm of geometric trail. The 'upright and back' rider position also adds to the Jones' nimbleness.
Then the rear end; the Jones chainstays are 19 inches, the Krampus 17.1 inches. I personally am DONE with short CSs. The longer CSs help me keep the front end down during steep climbs. The far out front wheel and the far back rear wheel make for a large sweet spot for climbing, and security for steep descents. I agree with Daniel, the Jones is in a different league than the Krampus. I love Surly's but not for 29er Plus design, yet. Joe in GJT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
