Happy to try them for you, Garth. Grin. Is size your hesitation? If so, I'm 
13 EEEish. Depending on your foot, you might find the Brogans fit if you 
remove the footbed (add a thin leather insole due to the grooves in the 
forefoot without an insole) and cut out the neoprene sock. But that's a lot 
of "ifs" and cutting out the sock makes them non-returnable I presume. 
Sardonic grin.

I know how frustrated I am with finding barefoot friendly footwear for a) 
big feet, b) wide forefoot, regular heel, for rugged terrain and weather. I 
can only imagine the challenge for you with size 14 flippers!

Lems have a size 48, which is what I'm hoping works. I was going to get 
their boot as my rainy day/cold weather bikepacking shoe (sandals and wool 
socks don't work for multi-day rain). When I talked with them they 
suggested I go with the 9-5 leather shoe instead of the leather boot 
because the forefoot is roomier (based on how it's sewn together.

I've tried almost everything out there. boiled wool socks (these, if you 
don't want to make them yourself (making them yourself allows you to 
control how dense you get them, but these dense up with more washings: 
http://www.sweatersintl.com) with sandals are a great option for much of 
the time. I wear Xero shoes Z-Trek 
sandals: https://xeroshoes.com/shop/feeltrue-products/ztrek-men/ and love 
them for running and biking when a full shoe isn't required.

SoftStar is fantastic. My wife and daughters love them. I don't do wel with 
EVA foam underfoot, so that eliminates many of their options, and their 
leather sole doesn't work well for me.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Saturday, December 31, 2016 at 12:06:18 PM UTC-7, Garth wrote:
>
> Interesting, thank you for trying them.  I had wondered about those but my 
> hesitation was confirmed in your account. 
>
> Have you tried Lem boots by chance ? They don't make a size 14 but would 
> be curious to know about them.
> Soft Star, have you tried their walking/running shoes ?  I have some 
> RunAmoc coming on Tuesday .
>
> For walking/hiking around here in mild conditions I have for the meantime 
> been wearing a 2mm Neosport Dive sock inside Merrel Bare Access and Vapor 
> Gloves. with a thin liner sock my feet stay perfectly warm walking through 
> deep snow for as long as I do , which is no more than a couple hours. 
>
>
> I may try some liquid rubber over socks for diy shoes ..... they'd last as 
> long as Vapor Gloves ..... ;) 
>
>
>
> On Saturday, December 31, 2016 at 1:31:18 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> I know there are some folks here who wear minimalist footwear. This is 
>> about my ongoing quest to find a winter moccasin that works for all the 
>> stupid things I do, keeps my feet warm and withstands the abuse I give 
>> them. Riv. content: I ride my bike to the trailhead. 
>> http://thegrid.ai/withabandon/modern-moccasins-afoot 
>>
>> With abandon, 
>> Patrick 
>>
>>
>>
>>

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