I'll leave that to someone else to answer. I don't really care.

On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 3:10 PM, Steve Palincsar <palin...@his.com> wrote:

>
> On 03/12/2017 03:50 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:
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>> Actually, "classic" is level top tube. Me, I don't care about classic, or
>> rather, I care about it much less than fit. But Rivs with very visibly
>> sloping tts are not classic designs.
>>
>>
> And I take it the 1-2 degree slope to be found on the Rambouillet, Saluki,
> Atlantis, etc., are not included in the "very visibly sloping" category?
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