Now that one looks like it has a suspended rear. I was wondering how they managed to suspend the rear wheel on that other one...

On 05/26/2017 06:42 PM, George Schick wrote:
Whoops, wrong bike. Here's the other one (hopefully):



On Friday, May 26, 2017 at 5:37:43 PM UTC-5, George Schick wrote:

    Patrick and others - I'd say it all depends on the conditions in
    which you're riding and the kind of bike you ride.  IOW, it's up
    to the individual.  I live in an area where many of the trails are
    constructed from compacted limestone "screenings," the finest
    crushed stone and dust that winds up at the bottom of the
    limestone quarry crushing machines.  In the drier Summer months
    this stuff makes a fine riding surface for just about any bike.
     But in the early Spring and late Fall these trails get very
    sloppy.  A MTB is preferred riding - or at least a flexible frame
    road bike with knobby tires.  To this end, I ride a dual
    suspension MTB during these time.  BUT, I always wound up with a
    lot of mud from this stuff all over me and the frame.  So, I
    decided to find a way to mount full fenders on this bike to
    minimize the effects of the mud-spray (something I was told I
    could not do with a dual-boing MTB, but decided to find a way to
    do it anyway).  Here's a pic of the results and, yes, it works
    without a problem with the knobby's:



    On Friday, May 26, 2017 at 3:04:44 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

        I'm curious about others' thoughts about fenders and knobbies.
        Fenders are most useful with knobbies, given that you ride
        knobbies in dirty conditions, and because the knobs pick up
        dirt. But I too would certainly hesitate more with this
        combination.

        Do some of y'all use fenders with knobby tires? Your
        safeguards? Your reasons?

        Me, I've used fenders off road for a long while, but I've also
        run low-tread tires off road for a long time -- Big Apples
        and, currently, Furious Freds, which have tiny little knoblets
        not likely to pick up a stick. I /would/ have installed
        regular, strutted fenders on my erstwhile Santa Cruz Bontrager
        Race Lite, with 2.3" Maxxis Ikons, if the frame easily took
        fenders, but it didn't and, rather than hack it, I installed a
        long motocross-type fender in front (held on by a plug in the
        steerer; no struts), and a shortie clip on in the back, both
        supplemented by plastic bits zip tied to seat tube and down
        tube (pretty effective, if I do say so myself, but ugly).

        I suppose I'd /be inclined/ to use regular fenders, say Planet
        Bike Cacadias, with knobbies if I had at least 2 cm of air
        under them, and if I could attach the front struts halfway up
        the fork.

        FWIW, I do use Cascadias with the F Freds on the Matthews,
        with the front struts bolted way high up on the inside top
        lowrider bosses. Not too much triangulation there, but while
        the front fender does sway a bit, it doesn't rattle. (And,
        because the Matthews has bigly TCO, I am always kicking this
        fender; it gets up, shakes its head, and keeps on going.) The
        rear is a shorty because I hate bashing rear fenders against
        things.

        Inline image 1

        On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 1:15 PM, Stuart Lovinggood
        <[email protected]> wrote:

            I want to like fenders, I really do. I know they're
            practical and all. But I also really want to run knobbies
            from time to time. And even though I have slicks on my
            Joe, they are 53mm wide and the 65mm wide fenders are just
            a lot to contend with. And so far these fenders have done
            a lot to distract from riding, with all the swaying and
            rattling and spooky noises. Maybe if I end up getting a
            bike with narrower tires that I'm less likely to ride off
            into the woods on, I'll get a nice set of metal fenders
            and have them tuned up by a fender whisperer.

            On Friday, May 26, 2017 at 7:11:18 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:

                Stuart, I'm in Bulverde (1400' el) and run full-time
                fenders on 2 bikes, and clip-ons on a 3rd.  I rarely
                see other bikes with fenders (except my friends), and
                wonder why more people here don't use them.

                
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