Be the change, Lee. Be the change. Mark in Beacon, 20yrs NYC, Mom Lives Jersey Shore
On Friday, October 13, 2017 at 10:27:38 PM UTC-4, Lee Legrand wrote: > > It is not a particular person or thing. New Jersey drivers are pretty > bad. Not all but if you live in upper NJ driving down many main roads, you > will find it the case. I have never heard of anyone complain about any > state drivers unlike NJ drivers. These are facts people who live in upper > NJ will complain will tell you. Part of the reason for this is because the > state is very congested and main roads can become pretty crowded to the > point of a parking lot. 30 minute drives turn into hour or more during the > week. Summer is pretty bad since many people are going to the shore. As a > person who has lived here all my life, I pretty much try to stay off of the > road. I do not know if you live in the state or not but if you do not, you > do not know what you are talking about. > > On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 9:41 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch < > [email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: > >> Yes, Lee, actually what you wrote is the definition of "stereotype": a >> widely held but fixed and oversimplified image or idea of a particular type >> of person or thing. >> >> There are nutballs behind the wheel or on wheels in all fifty States and >> many other places around the world. There are also many responsible drivers >> and cyclists in New Jersey and elsewhere. There are lots of people in >> between these two poles. Some people living in cities are hostile. Many are >> not. Some people who own Rivendells only wear wool underwear. Many do not. >> Etc.etc. etc. >> >> On Friday, October 13, 2017 at 7:18:03 PM UTC-4, Lee Legrand wrote: >>> >>> Hi John, >>> >>> I live in NJ and in the north. It is not a stereotype, unfortunately. >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 7:04 PM, John Hawrylak <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I live in far southern NJ, very rural. Although the northern people >>>> may be tougher, the driving up in the Newark area is not much differnet >>>> than in Philly or any major city. I would be careful about too many >>>> stereotypes. >>>> >>>> John Hawrylak >>>> Woodstown NJ >>>> >>>> On Friday, October 13, 2017 at 10:46:23 AM UTC-4, Lee Legrand wrote: >>>> >>>>> Its New Jersey Alan. >>>>> >>>>> Home of the worst drivers. >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 10:41 AM, alan lavine <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> John, >>>>>> Are you referring to "River Road" that runs through Palisades >>>>>> Interstate Park? We ride there all the time, and the riders heading >>>>>> south >>>>>> reach very fast speeds, because they can. I said to my wife just the >>>>>> other >>>>>> day that when riding in the city, the other cyclists have become more >>>>>> dangerous than the cars. Especially in Jersey. Especially when crossing >>>>>> the GW bridge. Its just nuts. >>>>>> >>>>>> Glad you are OK, but it'll be rough getting out of bed tomorrow. My >>>>>> best.. >>>>>> >>>>>> Alan >>>>>> NYC >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, October 12, 2017 at 7:30:11 PM UTC-4, John G. wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yesterday, at 5:30 in the morning, I collided head-on with another >>>>>>> cyclist. I was on a path along the Hudson river on the Jersey side, and >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> guy had no lights. And I went over the bars. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thankfully, I'm all right, but my Atlantis is pretty messed up, >>>>>>> and I'd like to get the lists advice . The fork is badly bent, and my >>>>>>> local shop thinks that the Head tube maybe messed up. They're stripping >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> down and sending it to Bilenky to see if it can be realigned. Do any of >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> think that's a bad move? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't want to think about how much worse it would've been if I >>>>>>> had been riding a carbon bike. I'm pretty bummed. The worst part is >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> the other guy swore at me and threw my water bottle at me while I was >>>>>>> lying >>>>>>> on the ground. Called me some names I won't repeat here, and rode off >>>>>>> before I was even able to get up. Sometimes I really hate riding >>>>>>> around >>>>>>> here. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Anyway, be safe out there and hug your Rivendells tonight! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> <javascript:>. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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