> Those who design bicycles would be urged to consider customers like
> myself, recognize that TCO is an offense (however significant), and
> deal with it proactively, either by eliminating it, or acknowledging
> that it is a necessary evil (however significant) to be tolerated.

Isn't that what Grant says in his post?

It is not like he designs a bike hoping for TCO.  He says there are
many considerations in a bike design, and sometimes other
considerations trump avoiding some TCO.

On Feb 3, 11:37 am, james black <chocot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 22:32, Tim McNamara <tim...@bitstream.net> wrote:
> > I think there are a number of us who want our cake and get to eat it too:
> >  sporty fast geometry with 45 mm tires, full fenders and no TCO.  I'd say
> > "pick two."  Some enchiladas can't be readily served whole.
>
> What we're talking about is a matter of how much value to place on
> various attributes. I understand that many of you will come to a
> reasoned point of view that the drawbacks of going to a smaller wheel
> size outweigh the benefits of eliminating TCO. Nearly every bike
> company makes some bikes with TCO. But there are also many cyclists
> who share my point of view that the benefits of the larger diameter
> wheel do not outweigh the disadvantage of TCO.
>
> Those who design bicycles would be urged to consider customers like
> myself, recognize that TCO is an offense (however significant), and
> deal with it proactively, either by eliminating it, or acknowledging
> that it is a necessary evil (however significant) to be tolerated. I
> am mildly annoyed and feel vaguely insulted by the point of view I
> sometimes encounter that TCO is an imaginary problem, or that I'm some
> kind of dimwit because it bothers me. There are other cyclists
> (customers) like me - bike designers should be attentive to this fact.
>
> James Black
> Los Angeles, CA

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