Oh, and re speed, the Boulder FEELS faster, it IS faster climbing wise, again EXCEPT when i can get the Kog to flex And as part of my 'let me compare thee to a BQ bicycle' i have the Kog and the boulder set up EXACTLY the same, and they are almost EXACTLY the same geometry. Compared them to each other multiple times, multiple courses. [tires as close to comparable as i could get, both 42s and 38s on the 650b, and 30s and 32s on the 700c / light weights both of them] The Kog feels better on dirt, for sure, feels better descending. In the end either 1 would make a fine "if i only had 1 bike" Ron in Western Ma
On Monday, December 18, 2017 at 11:45:33 AM UTC-5, M G wrote: > > I have a Boulder 700c rando w light tubing, and a Kog P/R; and the guys i > ride with have Rawland 650b bikes // i've spent YEARS trying to decide if > there is a difference, switching off bikes on the same route(s) etc. And i > will say that I greatly appreciate Jan's POV, and see all that he has done > for equipment (and of COURSE all the great work Grant P & Riv has done) // > that in the end it's incredibly subjective [remember when all BQ articles > essentially ended with, 'but still my 1962 Alex Singer did it better']. > > My personal experience is that HOW the bike fits you, do you feel IN it or > ON it, what is your fitness level, etc, is the biggest factor in comfort > and speed and 'planing' [when I've spent a winter doing squats, I can get > onto the P/R and it will 'plane' uphill for me; if i'm not in optimum > shape, that's the only time i get the 'non-planing deadleg' ie riding > uphill, or sprinting. The Boulder is a GREAT bike; the Rawland 650bs are > great; my Kog is an excellent all rounder; I ride the boulder on gnarly > dirt all the time and it hasn't snapped in 1/2 yet (it's on 32 mm tires, > compass tires, but i really prefer 27mm Challenge tires which are in effect > 30mm). And the bike i like the most [in theory], is my 1980 Tom Ritchey. > But in practice, the one i'm ON is the one i like the most. > > Heresy, but i have the Boulder set up as a fixed gear because i use it now > in a flat city [Boston] instead of in my hilly hometown, and with the > challenge tires 30mm tires, it's quantifiably a rocket. A comfortable > rocket. > > On Saturday, December 16, 2017 at 2:17:41 PM UTC-5, Ray Varella wrote: >> >> I have a couple different 50 mile rides I do, they are both on mostly >> paved surfaces, both have at least 8-10 miles of climbing and descending. >> I’ve done both these rides for close to 25 years. >> When I got my first 650B bike (in the early 2000s), I started riding that >> bike more than most. >> It fits 38-42mm tires, has fenders,lighting, bag, racks etc... >> My zippy road bike has been shod with700 28-35C tires, it is lean and >> carries nothing but a small under seat bag. >> >> While the road bike feels “faster”. >> The time it takes to complete either of these loops on either bike is >> never more than the time it takes to make a quick bathroom break. >> Neither is ever faster than the other. >> >> Ray >> Vallejo CA > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
