Interesting again. I can't say that my 28 mm actual Elk Passes feel slower than 22 mm actual Conti GPs (559 and 571 versions), or 571 Michelin Pro Race 3s and 4s, or in fact the very nice 559 X1" and 22 mm actual Specialized Turbo, when that was available; in fact, while feeling cushier (and of course being a heckofalot better for dirt), they actually feel faster, in the sense of making it seem easier to turn over a given gear at a given rpm in given conditions. I think that the feeling of smoothness also makes them feel faster (about 60 psi versus 80/90 f/r -- I'm 175 or so). (IME, it's not vibration at all that makes skinny tires feel faster, if in fact they do feel faster; just the opposite.)
If you were to post a conventional drive side profile view photo of the Boulder, I would not complain. On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 2:46 PM, M G <mgstf5...@gmail.com> wrote: > Eno eccentric for the boulder (i tried for a little while to use the magic > combination, and it was too much of a hassle. The hub was a 'regular' Eno, > and one can just replace the axle which is a great feature > > tires - > i have found that i like 28 to 30 on the boulder (and on my most excellent > Tom Ritchey) / that 32 - 33 = sluggish (and measurably slower). > I'm 180 lbs. > Likewise i like 'em a little smaller than the internet says re 650b as > well; 38s vs 42s feel much faster. > Ron > > > On Monday, December 18, 2017 at 1:03:46 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: >> >> *My personal experience is that HOW the bike fits you, do you feel IN it >> or ON it, what is your fitness level, etc, is the biggest factor in comfort >> and speed and 'planing'* >> >> I have suspected this for quite a while, based on what bikes feel to me >> fastest and "easiest to maintain speed on". Some of these have been rather >> tanklike; that 1958 Herse I've talked about was rejected by its 2 previous >> owners for having too stout tubing (I think I remember them saying this), >> but, heavy as it was, and even in fact with rather mediocre tires, it just >> felt faster than lighter, thinner tubed bikes (1973 Motobecane Grand >> Record, eg) that I've ridden extensively. "Felt faster" in the sense that I >> was encouraged when riding it to ride 1 rear cog tooth smaller. >> >> Compass ~28 mm tires for light gravel and firmer dirt -- wonderful! (Elk >> Pass.) And of course, a good (= optimum fit and "feel") road bike set up >> fixed with the best tires you can find: priceless! >> >> Curious: Does the Boulder have horizontals, or do you use an ENO or other >> such workaround? >> >> On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 9:39 AM, M G <mgst...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I have a Boulder 700c rando w light tubing, and a Kog P/R; and the guys >>> i ride with have Rawland 650b bikes // i've spent YEARS trying to decide if >>> there is a difference, switching off bikes on the same route(s) etc. And i >>> will say that I greatly appreciate Jan's POV, and see all that he has done >>> for equipment (and of COURSE all the great work Grant P & Riv has done) // >>> that in the end it's incredibly subjective [remember when all BQ articles >>> essentially ended with, 'but still my 1962 Alex Singer did it better']. >>> >>> My personal experience is that HOW the bike fits you, do you feel IN it >>> or ON it, what is your fitness level, etc, is the biggest factor in comfort >>> and speed and 'planing' [when I've spent a winter doing squats, I can get >>> onto the P/R and it will 'plane' uphill for me; if i'm not in optimum >>> shape, that's the only time i get the 'non-planing deadleg' ie riding >>> uphill, or sprinting. The Boulder is a GREAT bike; the Rawland 650bs are >>> great; my Kog is an excellent all rounder; I ride the boulder on gnarly >>> dirt all the time and it hasn't snapped in 1/2 yet (it's on 32 mm tires, >>> compass tires, but i really prefer 27mm Challenge tires which are in effect >>> 30mm). And the bike i like the most [in theory], is my 1980 Tom Ritchey. >>> But in practice, the one i'm ON is the one i like the most. >>> >>> Heresy, but i have the Boulder set up as a fixed gear because i use it >>> now in a flat city [Boston] instead of in my hilly hometown, and with the >>> challenge tires 30mm tires, it's quantifiably a rocket. A comfortable >>> rocket. >>> >>> On Saturday, December 16, 2017 at 2:17:41 PM UTC-5, Ray Varella wrote: >>>> >>>> I have a couple different 50 mile rides I do, they are both on mostly >>>> paved surfaces, both have at least 8-10 miles of climbing and descending. >>>> I’ve done both these rides for close to 25 years. >>>> When I got my first 650B bike (in the early 2000s), I started riding >>>> that bike more than most. >>>> It fits 38-42mm tires, has fenders,lighting, bag, racks etc... >>>> My zippy road bike has been shod with700 28-35C tires, it is lean and >>>> carries nothing but a small under seat bag. >>>> >>>> While the road bike feels “faster”. >>>> The time it takes to complete either of these loops on either bike is >>>> never more than the time it takes to make a quick bathroom break. >>>> Neither is ever faster than the other. >>>> >>>> Ray >>>> Vallejo CA >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. >> By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. >> Other professional writing services. >> http://www.resumespecialties.com/ >> www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ >> Patrick Moore >> Alburquerque, New Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique >> ************************************************************ >> **************************** >> *Auditis an me ludit amabilis insania?* >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. 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