I'm 210 lbs and just about every bike I get on seems to "plane" for me, and 
I think its because my weight makes nearly every bike flex for me in the 
right way. 

Ty

On Monday, December 18, 2017 at 3:13:06 PM UTC-8, M G wrote:
>
> Eno eccentric for the boulder (i tried for a little while to use the magic 
> combination, and it was too much of a hassle. The hub was a 'regular' Eno, 
> and one can just replace the axle which is a great feature
>
> tires - 
> i have found that i like 28 to 30 on the boulder (and on my most excellent 
> Tom Ritchey) / that 32 - 33 = sluggish (and measurably slower). 
> I'm 180 lbs.  
> Likewise i like 'em a little smaller than the internet says re 650b as 
> well; 38s vs 42s feel much faster.
> Ron
>
>
> On Monday, December 18, 2017 at 1:03:46 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> *My personal experience is that HOW the bike fits you, do you feel IN it 
>> or ON it, what is your fitness level, etc, is the biggest factor in comfort 
>> and speed and 'planing'*
>>
>> I have suspected this for quite a while, based on what bikes feel to me 
>> fastest and "easiest to maintain speed on". Some of these have been rather 
>> tanklike; that 1958 Herse I've talked about was rejected by its 2 previous 
>> owners for having too stout tubing (I think I remember them saying this), 
>> but, heavy as it was, and even in fact with rather mediocre tires, it just 
>> felt faster than lighter, thinner tubed bikes (1973 Motobecane Grand 
>> Record, eg) that I've ridden extensively. "Felt faster" in the sense that I 
>> was encouraged when riding it to ride 1 rear cog tooth smaller.
>>
>> Compass ~28 mm tires for light gravel and firmer dirt -- wonderful! (Elk 
>> Pass.) And of course, a good (= optimum fit and "feel") road bike set up 
>> fixed with the best tires you can find: priceless!
>>
>> Curious: Does the Boulder have horizontals, or do you use an ENO or other 
>> such workaround?
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 9:39 AM, M G <mgst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a Boulder 700c rando w light tubing, and a Kog P/R; and the guys 
>>> i ride with have Rawland 650b bikes // i've spent YEARS trying to decide if 
>>> there is a difference, switching off bikes on the same route(s) etc.  And i 
>>> will say that I greatly appreciate Jan's POV, and see all that he has done 
>>> for equipment (and of COURSE all the great work Grant P & Riv has done) // 
>>> that in the end it's incredibly subjective [remember when all BQ articles 
>>> essentially ended with, 'but still my 1962 Alex Singer did it better'].   
>>>
>>> My personal experience is that HOW the bike fits you, do you feel IN it 
>>> or ON it, what is your fitness level, etc, is the biggest factor in comfort 
>>> and speed and 'planing' [when I've spent a winter doing squats, I can get 
>>> onto the P/R and it will 'plane' uphill for me; if i'm not in optimum 
>>> shape, that's the only time i get the 'non-planing deadleg' ie riding 
>>> uphill, or sprinting.  The Boulder is a GREAT bike; the Rawland 650bs are 
>>> great; my Kog is an excellent all rounder; I ride the boulder on gnarly 
>>> dirt all the time and it hasn't snapped in 1/2 yet (it's on 32 mm tires, 
>>> compass tires, but i really prefer 27mm Challenge tires which are in effect 
>>> 30mm).  And the bike i like the most [in theory], is my 1980 Tom Ritchey.  
>>> But in practice, the one i'm ON is the one i like the most.
>>>
>>> Heresy, but i have the Boulder set up as a fixed gear because i use it 
>>> now in a flat city [Boston] instead of in my hilly hometown, and with the 
>>> challenge tires 30mm tires, it's quantifiably a rocket.  A comfortable 
>>> rocket. 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, December 16, 2017 at 2:17:41 PM UTC-5, Ray Varella wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have a couple different 50 mile rides I do, they are both on mostly 
>>>> paved surfaces, both have at least 8-10 miles of climbing and descending. 
>>>> I’ve done both these rides for close to 25 years. 
>>>> When I got my first 650B bike (in the early 2000s), I started riding 
>>>> that bike more than most. 
>>>> It fits 38-42mm tires, has fenders,lighting, bag, racks etc... 
>>>> My zippy road bike has been shod with700 28-35C tires, it is lean and 
>>>> carries nothing but a small under seat bag. 
>>>>
>>>> While the road bike feels “faster”. 
>>>> The time it takes to complete either of these loops on either bike is 
>>>> never more than the time it takes to make a quick bathroom break. 
>>>> Neither is ever faster than the other. 
>>>>
>>>> Ray 
>>>> Vallejo CA
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