Gotcha, makes sense.  Clem 59 (and 64) have a 71.5 HT angle.  52 Clem has a 
71, so, close to Bombadil.  Not sure if any contributors who've mentioned 
'upsweep' are referring to Bullmoose on a Clem or not.

On Monday, February 12, 2018 at 7:47:56 PM UTC-5, Eamon Nordquist wrote:
> Since they have a fixed attachment to the stem, it all depends on your 
> head tube angle. They are MTB handlebars originally. I think the current 
> versions were meant for Bombadils, which have a 70.5 or 71 degree head tube 
> angle. If your head tube is steeper than that, the ends will point up 
> slightly. By the same token, if you have a more slack angle, they will 
> point down slightly.

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