Thanks Chris for the advice. 

I’m guessing that you were straddling a 58cm, which has roughly an 85cm 
standover, with 32ish-mm tires. 

Although with shoes on, I’d think you’d be able to at least stand over that 
bike.  

> On Feb 19, 2018, at 9:46 PM, Christopher Murray <chrispmurra...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> In 2012 I went to Rivendell with the intent of getting a 56cm Sam. I was in 
> San Francisco for business and was hoping to bring it home with me. Waterford 
> was making them at the time. I have a 84.75cm PBH and have a 57cm Bleriot, 
> 56cm Quickbeam, 55cm Appa. I'd also ridden a 56cm Atlantis and 56cm Ram. 
> Kevin was there and he got the bike ready for me and.... it didn't fit. I 
> couldn't stand over the top tube. I went home empty handed. I recently talked 
> to Riv about the 55.5cm Rosco and Grant said it should fit but couldn't 
> explain why the 56cm Sam didn't. The best guess was it was actually a 58cm. I 
> passed on the Rosco because I couldn't shake that experience with the Sam. 
> With a 58cm and a PBH of 85, I'd be concerned about stand over height 
> especially with bigger tires. I think the 55cm would be the safe choice.
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> Chris
> 
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