Joe, I love your passion, but I believe there is more challenge and nuance here than you realize and it seems at best disingenuious to put all blame on Trump (whatever else a person may think of him) when our immigration laws and border have been broken since at least the Reagan era (who granted a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants at the time as an attempt to make things right and prompt Congress to get its act together).
— Family is the sacrosanct building block of society and parents have fundimental rights that no one can take away and the State should alwasy strive to uphold these. Among these rights are the rights to be with and educate their children. — A nation has a right and responsibility to have defined borders and control them. — A nation has a right to define what the legal path to citizenship is and a responsibility to provide a legal path to citizenship. I believe we have done this poorly and I also believe it is on the Congresses of the last four decades that we have not upheld human dignity with just immigration laws. — This in no way justifies it, but I believe children have been seperated from the adults accompanying them at the border in very specific circumstances under at least the last four presidents, possibly back to Clinton. Why? My take is it is an imperfect and bungled attempt to address the challenging situation of adults using children for their own benifit in various ways. I don’t know how frequent these circumstances are, or how many actualy families have been separated, but the fact that four presidents chose the same thing, and increased it in some cases, tells me there is something else, of a grave nature, going on. — Trump took action to stop separation of families at the border via executive order, using it to attempt to get Congress to pass more just laws. He is attempting to get done what the previous four (+?) presidends could not — get Congress to address immigration and border issues (you can’t solve one without solving the other). So far Congress has balked, on both sides. — Enflamed rhetoric is verbal violence. Violence in all forms always escalates and harms and never heals. — Logic and reason have stopped being taught in schools for the most part and it shows. We are becoming a Facebook nation in how we communicate, with no better skills at dialogue, logic, and reason than happen on college dormroom door whiteboards. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.