Stan 

>From the bike picture you posted, you already have bars with long ramps and 
a low ramp angle (approx. 10°) and you have the bars rotated to obtain a 0° 
ramp angle (ramps parallel to ground).   I would say the bars are either 
Nitto B132 or VO Course bars.

So you already have the long reach you discussed.

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

On Saturday, August 18, 2018 at 4:21:40 PM UTC-4, Sean Steinle wrote:
>
> To add to the number of variables we've already discussed, I stumbled upon 
> some articles on hand positioning for drops (
> http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2012/06/drop-bar-hand-positions-introduction.html),
>  
> which have introduced me to a hand position I haven't used much before and 
> hadn't really heard of, the ramps. Feel stupid for not having really heard 
> of it until now, but I think this may explain a lot. I always thought if 
> people weren't tucking in, then were either on the hoods or on the tops. 
> When I ride my new bike, I find my hands naturally gravitating toward the 
> ramps, but I kept thinking this wasn't a 'proper' position for long 
> portions of a ride. I kept thinking I needed to stretch for the hoods. 
> After reading Jan Heine talk about preferring longer reach bars and 
> primarily using the ramps and not the hoods, combined with the fact that 
> this bike was built up heavily with Jan's influence, I feel like this stem 
> and bar length might suit the ramp hand position more than hoods, for a 
> rider of my proportions. Not sure how other folks here feel about ramps vs 
> hoods, but I'm excited to give the ramps some miles as my primary hand 
> position and see how that goes.
>
> On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 at 9:54:10 AM UTC-5, Sean Steinle wrote:
>>
>> I'm feeling a bit too stretched out on my new rando bike with noodles. It 
>> currently has a 110cm stem, and the bars are a good 2 or 3 cms below saddle 
>> height. Can't raise the stem, it's a custom job and doesn't have any room 
>> for extenstion. At least not that I feel comfortable with. Since it's 
>> handmade, there's no max height line...
>>
>> As I set out to buy a new stem, I'm wondering, how much shorter do I go 
>> on the stem if I plan to raise the bars to saddle height as well? I'm sure 
>> it's dependent on HA & SA, but I'm wondering if there is a ballpark ratio 
>> which says that raising your stem 1 cm is the same effect as shortening it 
>> by X. Any real world experience to help me out? When you feel too stretched 
>> out, do you focus on raising the bars or shortening the stem?
>>
>>
>>

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