> Keep only one car for longer trips and emergencies. It certainly makes thing 
> simpler and healthier.

Where available, Zip Car and competitors provide an alternative to
havign a back up car.  My understanding is they have been unable to do
much more in LA than a couple of cars on the USC and UCLA campuses.
There are many cities with no such service.

I am worried somewhat that Zip Car which started during the boom
years, may not have staying power.  I use Zip Car much less than when
I first went to the bike - maybe once in the last four months.  The
last few times I noticed the cars were dingier and older than in the
past.  Still not enough to drag me back to car ownership though.  Not
as long as I am in Chicago anyway.

On Mar 11, 4:04 pm, Michael_S <[email protected]> wrote:
> I agree, a very inspiring story. I'm sure it took a lot of courage to
> pack up your family and move to another country as well. I can only
> dream of doing something like that right now.
> My goal is to take early retirement in about one year and relocate to
> a community where I can do just that, work part time close to home and
> use the bike for almost all needs. Keep only one car for longer trips
> and emergencies. It certainly makes thing simpler and healthier.
> It seems no matter how patient and courteous you try to drive ( my
> commute is 25 miles OW in LA)) there are many others who cut you off,
> rush past you to get ahead, and everthing else to create a more
> stressful drive.
> Thanks for keeping me focused on what I should do.
>
> ~Mike~
>
> On Mar 11, 12:50 pm, JoelMatthews <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Bravo!  The bike only lifestyle really does make a difference
> > physically and mentally.
>
> > I am six and one half years into it here in Chicago.  I look at cars
> > now and find myself wondering how I ever could stand using the
> > things.  The only continuing issue I have had is finding dates around
> > my age - mid-40s - who don't mind biking it.  According to the 20
> > somethings I have heard from, it is not too big a deal to find someone
> > in that age group willing to ride with you to the movies or a club.
> > There may well be people my age willing to ride with me to the opera
> > or dinner.  Not found them yet.  So Zip Car or cabs still get my
> > business from time to time.
>
> > As NEBike points out, lifestyle choices and cold hard economic reality
> > in many cases prohibit people here in the U.S. from the bike only
> > existance.  Personal experience and accounts from others suggest it is
> > possible in some of the west coast cities (even LA if you are willing
> > to carve out a small area of the sprawl as your sleep, work, shop
> > space), Boston, NYC, and Chicago, Minneapolis, and Milwaukee.
>
> > Our cities are getting more densely populated.  Employers increasingly
> > are consolidating in transit friendly locations.  The day will come.
> > Just slowly.
>
> > On Mar 11, 2:18 pm, Kip Otteson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Just wanted to post thoughts about being 7 months and car free.  I'm
> > > liking my past car use to addiction and it was truly that.  I used to
> > > commute for 75 miles on a round trip to work.  The drive took between
> > > 26 minutes and hours depending on the weather, accidents, road kill,
> > > etc.  The Colorado mountains are beautiful, but if you have a daily
> > > job it's a killer.  You need a reliable car that is warm which means
> > > it's most likely expensive and requires payments.  In the winter we
> > > had to walk two miles to the road to get to our car towing our son in
> > > a sled with the trash.  Headlights at 5 am in blowing snow.  All to
> > > get to work in our car.  Beautiful at times but not sustainable.
>
> > > Moving to Thailand was driven by our desire to reduce our commute time
> > > with the ability to do it our bikes.  We now ride five minutes to work
> > > with the kids.  I can take my kids on our Yuba Mundo and my wife rides
> > > her Heron.  We wake up at a reasonable hour, have our morning coffee/
> > > chat, get the kids up and roll.  Easy.
>
> > > With our bikes we now can travel with the family anywhere within 15 km
> > > with no problems.  We feel better physically.  We eat what we want
> > > without guilt.  I'm not consistently pissed/stressed like I was
> > > before.  No worries about mechanical difficulties because I can fix
> > > most things on the fly.  Not constantly looking out for cops because
> > > I'm speeding because I'm late.  Just much less stress.
>
> > > Traffic is heavy here and we often arrive just 5 minutes behind our
> > > friends who drove, had to fight traffic, had to find a parking spot,
> > > etc.
>
> > > I used to call myself a cyclist, but in America it was just
> > > posturing.  The most I could reasonably fit in was two rides a week
> > > and many of those I drove to because of time restrictions.  I had the
> > > clothes and the gear but if I wanted a label I should have called
> > > myself a "driver."
>
> > > I feel like a real cyclist now as I get places on my bike under my own
> > > power.  No car with a roof rack.  No car.
>
> > > Kip Otteson
> > > Chiang Mai, Thailand- Hide quoted text -
>
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