We're getting better here in the Twin Cities, infrastructure-wise, and
if i didn't have young kids to transport solo i probably would have
gotten rid of my car as soon as HourCar started up nearby. Weather can
be an issue, but it's mostly a problem for me because of kid transport
and lack of good public transport backup for my regular work commute.
Having a reasonable distance to work is definitely a big help. You're
right though, here too it is hard to find people over around 30 who
are interested in cycling to a date.

-- 
Bill Connell
St. Paul, MN


On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 4:13 PM, JoelMatthews <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Keep only one car for longer trips and emergencies. It certainly makes thing 
>> simpler and healthier.
>
> Where available, Zip Car and competitors provide an alternative to
> havign a back up car.  My understanding is they have been unable to do
> much more in LA than a couple of cars on the USC and UCLA campuses.
> There are many cities with no such service.
>
> I am worried somewhat that Zip Car which started during the boom
> years, may not have staying power.  I use Zip Car much less than when
> I first went to the bike - maybe once in the last four months.  The
> last few times I noticed the cars were dingier and older than in the
> past.  Still not enough to drag me back to car ownership though.  Not
> as long as I am in Chicago anyway.
>
> On Mar 11, 4:04 pm, Michael_S <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I agree, a very inspiring story. I'm sure it took a lot of courage to
>> pack up your family and move to another country as well. I can only
>> dream of doing something like that right now.
>> My goal is to take early retirement in about one year and relocate to
>> a community where I can do just that, work part time close to home and
>> use the bike for almost all needs. Keep only one car for longer trips
>> and emergencies. It certainly makes thing simpler and healthier.
>> It seems no matter how patient and courteous you try to drive ( my
>> commute is 25 miles OW in LA)) there are many others who cut you off,
>> rush past you to get ahead, and everthing else to create a more
>> stressful drive.
>> Thanks for keeping me focused on what I should do.
>>
>> ~Mike~
>>
>> On Mar 11, 12:50 pm, JoelMatthews <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > Bravo!  The bike only lifestyle really does make a difference
>> > physically and mentally.
>>
>> > I am six and one half years into it here in Chicago.  I look at cars
>> > now and find myself wondering how I ever could stand using the
>> > things.  The only continuing issue I have had is finding dates around
>> > my age - mid-40s - who don't mind biking it.  According to the 20
>> > somethings I have heard from, it is not too big a deal to find someone
>> > in that age group willing to ride with you to the movies or a club.
>> > There may well be people my age willing to ride with me to the opera
>> > or dinner.  Not found them yet.  So Zip Car or cabs still get my
>> > business from time to time.
>>
>> > As NEBike points out, lifestyle choices and cold hard economic reality
>> > in many cases prohibit people here in the U.S. from the bike only
>> > existance.  Personal experience and accounts from others suggest it is
>> > possible in some of the west coast cities (even LA if you are willing
>> > to carve out a small area of the sprawl as your sleep, work, shop
>> > space), Boston, NYC, and Chicago, Minneapolis, and Milwaukee.
>>
>> > Our cities are getting more densely populated.  Employers increasingly
>> > are consolidating in transit friendly locations.  The day will come.
>> > Just slowly.
>>
>> > On Mar 11, 2:18 pm, Kip Otteson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > > Just wanted to post thoughts about being 7 months and car free.  I'm
>> > > liking my past car use to addiction and it was truly that.  I used to
>> > > commute for 75 miles on a round trip to work.  The drive took between
>> > > 26 minutes and hours depending on the weather, accidents, road kill,
>> > > etc.  The Colorado mountains are beautiful, but if you have a daily
>> > > job it's a killer.  You need a reliable car that is warm which means
>> > > it's most likely expensive and requires payments.  In the winter we
>> > > had to walk two miles to the road to get to our car towing our son in
>> > > a sled with the trash.  Headlights at 5 am in blowing snow.  All to
>> > > get to work in our car.  Beautiful at times but not sustainable.
>>
>> > > Moving to Thailand was driven by our desire to reduce our commute time
>> > > with the ability to do it our bikes.  We now ride five minutes to work
>> > > with the kids.  I can take my kids on our Yuba Mundo and my wife rides
>> > > her Heron.  We wake up at a reasonable hour, have our morning coffee/
>> > > chat, get the kids up and roll.  Easy.
>>
>> > > With our bikes we now can travel with the family anywhere within 15 km
>> > > with no problems.  We feel better physically.  We eat what we want
>> > > without guilt.  I'm not consistently pissed/stressed like I was
>> > > before.  No worries about mechanical difficulties because I can fix
>> > > most things on the fly.  Not constantly looking out for cops because
>> > > I'm speeding because I'm late.  Just much less stress.
>>
>> > > Traffic is heavy here and we often arrive just 5 minutes behind our
>> > > friends who drove, had to fight traffic, had to find a parking spot,
>> > > etc.
>>
>> > > I used to call myself a cyclist, but in America it was just
>> > > posturing.  The most I could reasonably fit in was two rides a week
>> > > and many of those I drove to because of time restrictions.  I had the
>> > > clothes and the gear but if I wanted a label I should have called
>> > > myself a "driver."
>>
>> > > I feel like a real cyclist now as I get places on my bike under my own
>> > > power.  No car with a roof rack.  No car.
>>
>> > > Kip Otteson
>> > > Chiang Mai, Thailand- Hide quoted text -
>>
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