> Now my daily activities tend to radiate about a mile or two from home, which 
> is enough for groceries, dentist/
> doctor, bank, post office, restaurants, etc. If I'm riding farther
> than that, it's usually for recreation.

My experience has been similar.  My father lives in a Chicago suburb
unfortunately not convenient to the otherwise pretty good commuter
heavy rail system that serves the greater Chicago area.  The first few
years after giving up my own car, I would make all sorts of big box
detours on my Zip Car visits to him.  As time went by, I began to
discover things near by could meet my needs - which have gradually
changed.

Amtrak has three routes to Central and Southern Illinois that now
allow bike roll ons.  The last few years it is just as likely I will
spend weekends in Galesburg or Macomb (downstate college towns with
nice in town B&Bs and restaurants and pleasant rural riding) as
Schaumburg (a large malled suburb of Chicago) .

On Mar 11, 6:28 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <[email protected]>
wrote:
> You guys should really be pursuing younger women, obviously.
>
> I went car-free/lite about the time I got my first Rivendell
> (Atlantis) back in 2004. I'm not as religious about it as I once was,
> but I can't imagine going back to being a regular driver. My commute
> is now ~150 footsteps, all sidewalk, with no streets to cross. I still
> own two SUVs (one family car and one for shop use), but I drive maybe
> once a month or less (last year my longest car-free streak was almost
> 4 months), and I wonder how I ever managed the stress of doing it
> everyday!
>
> My attitude about being car-free has evolved over the years. At first,
> I tried to do all the stuff I once did by car, but with a bike - sort
> of the "any distance is biking distance" attitude. It didn't take long
> before I decided that visiting big-box retail stores in the suburbs
> wasn't worth the hassle. Now my daily activities tend to radiate about
> a mile or two from home, which is enough for groceries, dentist/
> doctor, bank, post office, restaurants, etc. If I'm riding farther
> than that, it's usually for recreation.
>
> On Mar 11, 4:36 pm, JoelMatthews <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > > You're right though, here too it is hard to find people over around 30 who
> > > are interested in cycling to a date.
>
> > Well, while I wish it were not the case, there is some solace in
> > reading I am not alone!
>
> > On Mar 11, 4:23 pm, Bill Connell <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > We're getting better here in the Twin Cities, infrastructure-wise, and
> > > if i didn't have young kids to transport solo i probably would have
> > > gotten rid of my car as soon as HourCar started up nearby. Weather can
> > > be an issue, but it's mostly a problem for me because of kid transport
> > > and lack of good public transport backup for my regular work commute.
> > > Having a reasonable distance to work is definitely a big help. You're
> > > right though, here too it is hard to find people over around 30 who
> > > are interested in cycling to a date.
>
> > > --
> > > Bill Connell
> > > St. Paul, MN
>
> > > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 4:13 PM, JoelMatthews <[email protected]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >> Keep only one car for longer trips and emergencies. It certainly makes 
> > > >> thing simpler and healthier.
>
> > > > Where available, Zip Car and competitors provide an alternative to
> > > > havign a back up car.  My understanding is they have been unable to do
> > > > much more in LA than a couple of cars on the USC and UCLA campuses.
> > > > There are many cities with no such service.
>
> > > > I am worried somewhat that Zip Car which started during the boom
> > > > years, may not have staying power.  I use Zip Car much less than when
> > > > I first went to the bike - maybe once in the last four months.  The
> > > > last few times I noticed the cars were dingier and older than in the
> > > > past.  Still not enough to drag me back to car ownership though.  Not
> > > > as long as I am in Chicago anyway.
>
> > > > On Mar 11, 4:04 pm, Michael_S <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >> I agree, a very inspiring story. I'm sure it took a lot of courage to
> > > >> pack up your family and move to another country as well. I can only
> > > >> dream of doing something like that right now.
> > > >> My goal is to take early retirement in about one year and relocate to
> > > >> a community where I can do just that, work part time close to home and
> > > >> use the bike for almost all needs. Keep only one car for longer trips
> > > >> and emergencies. It certainly makes thing simpler and healthier.
> > > >> It seems no matter how patient and courteous you try to drive ( my
> > > >> commute is 25 miles OW in LA)) there are many others who cut you off,
> > > >> rush past you to get ahead, and everthing else to create a more
> > > >> stressful drive.
> > > >> Thanks for keeping me focused on what I should do.
>
> > > >> ~Mike~
>
> > > >> On Mar 11, 12:50 pm, JoelMatthews <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > >> > Bravo!  The bike only lifestyle really does make a difference
> > > >> > physically and mentally.
>
> > > >> > I am six and one half years into it here in Chicago.  I look at cars
> > > >> > now and find myself wondering how I ever could stand using the
> > > >> > things.  The only continuing issue I have had is finding dates around
> > > >> > my age - mid-40s - who don't mind biking it.  According to the 20
> > > >> > somethings I have heard from, it is not too big a deal to find 
> > > >> > someone
> > > >> > in that age group willing to ride with you to the movies or a club.
> > > >> > There may well be people my age willing to ride with me to the opera
> > > >> > or dinner.  Not found them yet.  So Zip Car or cabs still get my
> > > >> > business from time to time.
>
> > > >> > As NEBike points out, lifestyle choices and cold hard economic 
> > > >> > reality
> > > >> > in many cases prohibit people here in the U.S. from the bike only
> > > >> > existance.  Personal experience and accounts from others suggest it 
> > > >> > is
> > > >> > possible in some of the west coast cities (even LA if you are willing
> > > >> > to carve out a small area of the sprawl as your sleep, work, shop
> > > >> > space), Boston, NYC, and Chicago, Minneapolis, and Milwaukee.
>
> > > >> > Our cities are getting more densely populated.  Employers 
> > > >> > increasingly
> > > >> > are consolidating in transit friendly locations.  The day will come.
> > > >> > Just slowly.
>
> > > >> > On Mar 11, 2:18 pm, Kip Otteson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > >> > > Just wanted to post thoughts about being 7 months and car free.  
> > > >> > > I'm
> > > >> > > liking my past car use to addiction and it was truly that.  I used 
> > > >> > > to
> > > >> > > commute for 75 miles on a round trip to work.  The drive took 
> > > >> > > between
> > > >> > > 26 minutes and hours depending on the weather, accidents, road 
> > > >> > > kill,
> > > >> > > etc.  The Colorado mountains are beautiful, but if you have a daily
> > > >> > > job it's a killer.  You need a reliable car that is warm which 
> > > >> > > means
> > > >> > > it's most likely expensive and requires payments.  In the winter we
> > > >> > > had to walk two miles to the road to get to our car towing our son 
> > > >> > > in
> > > >> > > a sled with the trash.  Headlights at 5 am in blowing snow.  All to
> > > >> > > get to work in our car.  Beautiful at times but not sustainable.
>
> > > >> > > Moving to Thailand was driven by our desire to reduce our commute 
> > > >> > > time
> > > >> > > with the ability to do it our bikes.  We now ride five minutes to 
> > > >> > > work
> > > >> > > with the kids.  I can take my kids on our Yuba Mundo and my wife 
> > > >> > > rides
> > > >> > > her Heron.  We wake up at a reasonable hour, have our morning 
> > > >> > > coffee/
> > > >> > > chat, get the kids up and roll.  Easy.
>
> > > >> > > With our bikes we now can travel with the family anywhere within 
> > > >> > > 15 km
> > > >> > > with no problems.  We feel better physically.  We eat what we want
> > > >> > > without guilt.  I'm not consistently pissed/stressed like I was
> > > >> > > before.  No worries about mechanical difficulties because I can fix
> > > >> > > most things on the fly.  Not constantly looking out for cops 
> > > >> > > because
> > > >> > > I'm speeding because I'm late.  Just much less stress.
>
> > > >> > > Traffic is heavy here and we often arrive just 5 minutes behind our
> > > >> > > friends who drove, had to fight traffic, had to find a parking 
> > > >> > > spot,
> > > >> > > etc.
>
> > > >> > > I used to call myself a cyclist, but in America it was just
> > > >> > > posturing.  The most I could reasonably fit in was two rides a week
> > > >> > > and many of those I drove to because of time restrictions.  I had 
> > > >> > > the
> > > >> > > clothes and the gear but if I wanted a label I should have called
> > > >> > > myself a "driver."
>
> > > >> > > I feel like a real cyclist now as I get places on my bike under my 
> > > >> > > own
> > > >> > > power.  No car with a roof rack.  No car.
>
> > > >> > > Kip Otteson
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