I should add that I've never, in what, 24 years? of riding fixed with TCO -- and even more years riding fw with TCO -- never had an accident due to TCO.
On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 10:41 AM Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: > One's reaction to TCO -- or rather, "TO" -- is very personal. Grant has > said more than once, in effect, "It's not a big deal." Obviously it is a > big deal to some people, but it is not in itself a design defect and does > not mean in it self that the wheel size is incorrect. > > My personal preference is that of Grant; TCO is not a big deal for me. > I've ridden fixed gears with fenders and lots of TCO in urban traffic for > years with no problems more than the annoyance of having to pay a bit more > attention to what I am doing. Although I ride 26" wheel road bikes -- Rivs > in fact -- I prefer "twenty nine inch" for dirt; my Matthews "road bike for > dirt" -- designed to have "sort of" road handling with 29 1/2" tall tires > with fenders (700C X 60, fenders 85 mm wide) has about 3" of TO and I get > by in dirt; not very technical, but then this is not a mountain bike, > either. > > On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 10:32 AM Jason Fuller <jtf.ful...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Toe overlap is one of my gripes with a lot of Riv bikes - while it's >> generally a product of appropriate geometry, rather than a design input, as >> mentioned wheel size is a big contributor and IMO if you've got anything >> more than slight overlap, then the wheel size is incorrect. >> >> IMO any bike with generous tire clearance should be 26" up until ~53cm, >> then 650B up to ~59cm, then 700C after that. Much like chainstay length >> should be proportional to a frame size, so should wheel diameter. ***Of >> course my cut-off sizes are totally estimated and depend on the bike. That >> would mean at 5'9" I would generally ride 26" for fatter tired bikes and >> 650B for skinnier tires bikes. >> >> I'd love to see more 26" option frames from Riv as well. Especially ones >> that are designed to be towards the sporty end of the Riv spectrum vs. >> heavy-duty. Imagine a sporty (but comfy) 26" version of a Quickbeam that >> fit 2.3"! >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/fd15f8c2-d0f9-4099-9f66-5dafe3e1dc4f%40googlegroups.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/fd15f8c2-d0f9-4099-9f66-5dafe3e1dc4f%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > > > -- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum > > > > -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfgt%2B4EZN4FbsEjenqYQX_Nk2NrH1i0jk9PLfjDReLJB%2Bjg%40mail.gmail.com.
