I’ll agree with that Steve. I can imagine situations where having a rear wheel lock up would be quite stressful and dangerous, even if you were able to maintain control. Riding in heavy traffic and crossing major intersections are two situations that are easy to think of.
Btw- I do still run fenders on some bikes. One of my takeaways was to increase the frequency and intensity of my “bolt checks”. Failure is always in the back of my mind and frequently I will stop to give a tightness check if those thoughts are disrupting my flow state. Robert, SLC On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 1:31 PM Steve Palincsar <palin...@his.com> wrote: > Can a rear wheel lock up be problematic? > > Let me tell you a little story. A few years ago, a colleague at work > wrapped a cast-off sweater around her seat post and rear rack. As she was > riding along, an arm of the sweater came loose. It got wrapped up in the > back wheel, which locked. Her bike skidded, she crashed, and spent most of > the next year out of work having and recovering from multiple surgeries. > > Is it likely? Probably not. As someone mentioned, you can control rear > skids. On the other hand, many people lose control if their rear wheel > skids -- it's how most crashes on the local bike trail happen, rear wheel > skids on slippery boardwalk or bridge, and most people simply lose control > and crash. > > Something similar happened with a rear mud flap to one of Jan Heine's > riding companions on Paris Brest Paris last year. He managed to avoid a > crash. > > In any event, it's not something you want to happen. > On 3/15/20 2:44 PM, Elias Hakim wrote: > > Leah, > Steve nailed the synapse of it. Big difference was that it was my front > fender. I didn’t use a nylock nut or something similar to help secure the > fork crown mount. After many, many miles of high speed riding that nut > eventually vibrated loose and the fender dropped and contacted the wheel. > It had enough force the twist the fork crown and place the dropouts behind > the down tube. I was lucky to escape with an overnight in the hospital, a > grade III ac separation, a concussion, and serious road rash on legs, arms, > stomach, shoulders, and lower back. It took me over a year and a half to > regain confidence riding down the slightest hill and to this day I dislike > high speed road descents. > > Though it was a costly way to learn, I did come away with a number of > lessons and strong opinions. > > I imagine a rear fender issue could be problematic, but certainly less > catastrophic than a front failure. > > Robert, SLC > > On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 11:55 AM Leah Peterson <jonasandle...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Robert, after hearing that this wiggly fender is an egregious mistake, I >> won’t go back to that shop. Your accident has me a little concerned - I >> wouldn’t have known a fender could cause a wreck. Do you mind telling us >> what happened? I hope you are ok. >> >> Best, >> Leah >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Mar 15, 2020, at 9:50 AM, Robert Hakim <elias.robert.ha...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> I agree that it is beyond belief that a bike shop would not have the >> bolt- not only the bolt, though- it amazes me that they don't have the >> know-how and actually allowed a bicycle with an unsecured fender to leave >> the shop "as is" >> >> That, to me, is a huge red flag and I would immediately abandon the shop. >> Though that may seem extreme I suffered greatly following a high speed >> wreck due to an unsecured fender. It also makes me wonder, what other >> safety issues is the mechanic oblivious to? >> >> FWIW, in the off chance there was a packing error and that clip was >> omitted a quick email to the friendly folks at VO would help turn up a >> spare part. Also, as others have mentioned, a drill, some low-profile >> bolts, a small "L" clamp, and a nylon or leather washer will also be a >> suitable solution. >> >> Good luck finding a reputable shop! >> >> -Robert, SLC >> >> >> On Friday, March 13, 2020 at 8:34:37 PM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote: >>> >>> It is beyond belief that a bike shop would not have the requisite bolt. >>> >>> >> >> >>> Steve Palincsar >>> Alexandria, Virginia >>> USA >>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/qyBurHHhVnE/unsubscribe >> . >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/c8b459b6-f02a-40ca-b6ad-5d049e90ad1a%40googlegroups.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/c8b459b6-f02a-40ca-b6ad-5d049e90ad1a%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/qyBurHHhVnE/unsubscribe >> . >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/05C4B24E-7EFE-4040-9D27-7669976D4805%40gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/05C4B24E-7EFE-4040-9D27-7669976D4805%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CAM2f5OoSWhtV807M993vR_hqGY1G7cXVKOPtodvVUHZY9mtHXQ%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CAM2f5OoSWhtV807M993vR_hqGY1G7cXVKOPtodvVUHZY9mtHXQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > Steve Palincsar > Alexandria, Virginia > USA > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/qyBurHHhVnE/unsubscribe > . > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/f0881c89-02c5-9265-590d-0799b761a59d%40his.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/f0881c89-02c5-9265-590d-0799b761a59d%40his.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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