I'd add: hassle of a field flat with latex goop and tube (unless hauling a 
compressor). I've dealt with goop in a tube and that was bad enough for me. 
But I only get 2-4 flats a year.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, April 16, 2020 at 8:29:15 PM UTC-6, ted wrote:
>
> Someone I won't name, because he should be gratefully honored for his 
> contributions and definitely never hectored about such trivia, wrote he 
> could think of at least 11 steps to mounting a tube in a tire off the top 
> of his head.
>
> I only think of 10.
>    Put a layer of rim tape on the rim
>    Put one bead of the tire on the rim down in the well
>    Put talc on the tube or the inside surface of the tire.
>    Put just enough air in the tube to give it some shape
>    Put the tube inside the tire and around the rim (with the valve through 
> the hole of course)
>    Push the other bead of the tire onto the rim and down into the well
>    Make sure the tube isn't stuck under a tire bead anyplace
>    Inflate to seat the beads
>    Make sure the beads are seated
>    Reduce pressure to what you ride
>
> What am I missing?
>
> Now for tubeless its (assuming no difficulties/hiccups)
>    Put n layers of tubeless rim tape on the rim
>    Install the valve stem, pull the core 
>    Slather soapy water al over the place
>    Put the tire on the rim
>    Use a compressor to blow air through the valve body to seat the tire 
> (may spray soapy water about doing this)
>    Put sealant in through the valve
>    Put the valve core back in
>    Inflate the tire (may have sealant spraying about doing this)
>    Check that sealant isn't coming out around the bead 
>    Spin the wheel a few times
>    Let it sit overnight (reminds me of gluing tubulars)
>    Re-inflate to riding pressure because it probably got soft overnight
>
> Now I'll agree that that doesn't sound too bad, only a dozen steps. I also 
> agree that anyone who works on stuff, and has a shop or a garage, should 
> get a compressor. Well worth the investment (can you say air tools, fun). 
> But with the potential for spraying soapy water and/or sealant about, and 
> the risk of significant difficulty seating/sealing the beads etc, I don't 
> see how an honest appraisal can really conclude its not significantly more 
> trouble than installing tires with tubes. Kinda like gluing tubulars. Now I 
> can't quote anybody saying tubeless setup is trivial and as easy as using 
> tubes, but I feel like some proponents sort of imply something close to 
> that. Am I wrong?
>
>
>
>
>

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