I'm not at all faulting your decision to sell your Roadini, but my 2 most
recent Road customs have 45 mm stays and define my idea of impeccable
handling with bar 3-4 cm below saddle, tho' on 8 cm stems. Dodging potholes
is easy! 73* sta, tho' saddle pretty far back on rails.

On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 7:44 PM Matt Dreher <99m...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've harped a lot about my travails with my 61 Roadini on here and on
> iBOB, and having just sold it I may as well bring it up for the last time
> because I think it's important to know why you love something.
>
> What makes the Roadini so special is the chainstay length, running from 45
> to 46cm and rising 5mm every size. Mine didn't work out for me because I
> started wanting to take a very un-Rivendell fit with my bars about level
> with the saddle and a 100mm stem. That put my center of mass way further
> forward than it would otherwise, which I found had really adverse effects
> on my handling. Small position changes like avoiding potholes felt like
> they were two consecutive motions instead of one and I felt my rear
> reaching its limit of traction under hard cornering too easily. After I got
> a bike with 41.5 stays I realized that that's what was going on, I was
> taking a position that loaded up my front wheel more and took too much
> weight off the back than what Grant was designing for.
>
> That's also what makes it so good for a position that puts your bars
> significantly higher than the saddle. If I were to try that upright
> Rivendell position on that 41.5-stay bike it would feel awful, far too
> light in the front because there's so much weight on the rear wheel. With
> the Roadini taking an upright position is fine because the geometry lets
> you maintain a neutral weight distribution and good handling.
>
> I'm not sorry I owned it, it was a wonderful bike and it taught me a lot
> about how geometry can imply a certain fit. Glad you're all enjoying yours
> so much!
>
> On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 8:56:29 PM UTC-5, Dave Grossman wrote:
>>
>> I bought a Roadini frameset a over a year ago and finally got around to
>> building it up during the crisis.  As a father of small children, my time
>> to ride outside of family rides and commuting is limited, so I was hesitant
>> to put money into a road bike.  I couldn't be more glad that I did.
>>
>> The bike is the most unaggressive-aggressive bike I have owned.  It has a
>> terrific riding position (I have a 90 pbh and bought the 61 to be on a
>> "bigger" bike and it was a good choice), and I feel like I am in the bike
>> as opposed to feeling like a rock in a slingshot.  It does everything a
>> road bike should do, and I don't get off feeling beaten by the road.
>> Anyhow, thanks to Grant for making a bike unlike any other bike brand
>> today.  I'm proud to be a two Riv garage (I have a Hunq also).
>>
>> Build:
>> Nitto Ui-12 31.8 Stem
>> Salsa Woodchipper Bars 46cm
>> Dura Ace 7400 Cranks (49/39)
>> Dura Ace 7700 Bar Ends
>> Sram 11-34 9 speed Cassette
>> Deore 9 RD
>> Sora FD
>> Mavic CXP 33s Laced To CK Classics
>> Schwalbe One 28s
>> Berthoud Saddle
>>
>>
>> I'll get a pic up soon.
>>
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