42 cm for my Richard Sachs custom (Richard is known for longer-than-usual chain stays on a traditional “road” bike) and 43cm for one of my Alex Singers. 1976 Centurion Pro Tour, built as a “touring” bike in time for the “Bikecentennial,” has 44 cm stays.
They all ride nice, but of course each has a unique feel. And yes, I still enjoy riding Patrick’s former Motobecane, which has been part of my regular rotation for several years now. I should note that both the Singer and Motobecane are built with Reynolds 531, which is a truly marvelous tubeset that builds into lively, fun bikes, regardless of the geometry. --Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com campyonlyguy.blogspot.com > On Apr 26, 2020, at 8:18 PM, Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: > > My 1973 Motobecane Grand Record had chainstays 44.5 cm long to the center of > the long dropouts, identical in length to those of my later 2 Riv Road > customs. > > On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 7:08 AM Mark Roland <absolutegal...@gmail.com > <mailto:absolutegal...@gmail.com>> wrote: > Grant did not pioneer chainstay lengths in the 44-46cm range. I currently > have 3 vintage road bicycles, designed to have drop bars positioned below the > saddle height. Chainstays are 45cm. (I've owned road bikes with 46cm > chainstays as well, 57-60cm seat tubes). Handling on my bicycles is > excellent. This chainstay range is not atypical for both racing and "sport" > bicycles from the 1950s-80s. To imply that the Roadini is not suitable for a > lower bar position simply because it did not work for you, not sure that is a > valid conclusion. (Obviously can't get a "super racer" drop, as the upslope > frame is designed to accommodate higher bar positions--but does not preclude > lower up to a point, and depending on how one sizes the frame initially.) > > > On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 12:47:02 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: > I'm not at all faulting your decision to sell your Roadini, but my 2 most > recent Road customs have 45 mm stays and define my idea of impeccable > handling with bar 3-4 cm below saddle, tho' on 8 cm stems. Dodging potholes > is easy! 73* sta, tho' saddle pretty far back on rails. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfgs0me7LLpBmbrMzmmiRC%2B8g6JvFSxVcR%3D06RjuukK2jmw%40mail.gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfgs0me7LLpBmbrMzmmiRC%2B8g6JvFSxVcR%3D06RjuukK2jmw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/8461BFDA-9CF2-45C8-9F3A-FC2490C91F6E%40me.com.
