I disagree. VO is clearly more of a “business” business, and much of their 
stuff is made to a price point, but most of it is made with a purpose more than 
revenue,  is well designed and manufactured, and developed by people who live 
bicycles. As for copying, it sure didn’t start with VO—the Roadeo, all rounder, 
Legolas, even Atlantis didn’t grow fully developed from Grant’s brain.

Patrick Moore
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> On Jun 13, 2020, at 11:30 AM, S <sbl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Some of their parts look OK, but I have always felt that VO lacks . . . heart 
> and originality. That's the nicest way I can say it. 
> 
>> On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 3:47:32 PM UTC-7, Fullylugged wrote:
>> VO has on other occasions mimicked what Rivendell has introduced. Usually 
>> made more cheaply and at a lower price point.
>> 
>> On Tuesday, June 9, 2020, 01:09:36 PM CDT, Brian Campbell 
>> <bdcamp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> VO is offering something similar:
>> 
>> https://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2020/05/mega-list-of-project-updates.html
>> 
>> Drop tube/drop bar bikes are a " thing" now.....
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