Joe Bernard? I have not seen his custom but until I started riding again I have not been active here. Something to think about. First I thought you were talking about a Joe built, he did my 56cm Joel Green.
On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 2:12 PM Doug Hansford <dhansford1...@gmail.com> wrote: > Joel, > Tap that 401k!! Have you seen Joe B.'s custom? It has a nice sloping top > tube and I think maybe 650b? You SHOULD treat yourself to a retirement > gift. All those years of saving in your retirement accounts was good > discipline and now you should not feel guilty for investing in a nice bike. > Riding has so many benefits both mental and physical that I think it would > be money well spent. If Joe sees this maybe he can tell you about is custom > and the process he went through the come up with the design. > Doug Hansford > > On Sunday, June 28, 2020 at 1:53:23 PM UTC-4, Joel Stern wrote: >> >> Ted, I have had 8 Rivendells before my accident 10 years ago, 4 were >> still with me. Sold 3 of my last 4 as I thought I would not ride again but >> kept the Bleriot in the hope that I would as I bonded with the 650b. Now >> retired and riding again and I have not touched my 401 money. Maybe I >> deserve a treat. >> >> On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 1:24 PM ted <ted....@comcast.net> wrote: >> > Hey Joel, >>> >>> Prices have certainly gone up since the Bleriot days, I think a lot of >>> that is just years of inflation but still ... >>> >>> I encourage you to give the fine folks at RBW WH a call to discuss ride >>> and handling of current models wrt your Bleriot. >>> That said I would expect the AHH to be closer to your Bleriot but >>> perhaps a bit more stable, and the Joe A and Atlantis to be more stable. >>> >>> regards >>> ted >>> >>> On Sunday, June 28, 2020 at 9:57:49 AM UTC-7, Joel Stern wrote: >>>> >>>> Ted, thanks. I am beginning to understand the slopping TT and what >>>> that means. From what I am reading I would be a 51 on the Homer and >>>> Appaloosa and a 50 on the Atlantis. My Bleriot was a bargain as these new >>>> MIT models are snout what I paid for my first Road, and my next custom was >>>> just a tad more. The Longer chain stays would be welcome if the increase >>>> comfort, my back would appreciate that. I am also curious about he >>>> stability of the front end, the Bleriot is good but just today I noticed a >>>> bit of a twitchy feel which could have been me. I have new 42mm tires on >>>> but I don’t think that would have caused it. >>>> >>>> Thanks, Joel >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 12:46 PM ted <ted....@comcast.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Joel, >>>>> >>>>> The top tubes of most MIT Rivs (including the MIT AHH and Atlantis) >>>>> have significantly more slope than the older models like your Bleriot. >>>>> Therefore the size for a given bar height with respect to seat height >>>>> is smaller, and ones proper size based on pbh is smaller. >>>>> Stand over is increased by about half the difference in size (with >>>>> respect to a more horizontal tt model). >>>>> Just changing the top tube slope should not cause perceptible >>>>> differences in the ride qualities of an otherwise identical design. >>>>> The new MIT Atlantis and AHH also have longer chain stays (and I >>>>> presume wheelbases) than the earlier Toyo and Waterford versions. I think >>>>> there are other threads that speak to how these versions ride and handling >>>>> compare, but a short answer would be longer wb and sitting further from >>>>> the >>>>> rear axle should give a smoother ride over bumps. >>>>> >>>>> On Sunday, June 28, 2020 at 7:10:42 AM UTC-7, Joel Stern wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I was really confused at first at the A Homer Hilson, Appaloosa and >>>>>> the new Atlantis. The sizing is very different than of old, like for my >>>>>> Bleriot where I ride a 55cm bike, looks like on the Hilson and Appaloosa >>>>>> I >>>>>> would take a 51cm and on the new Atlantis a 50. So my question for those >>>>>> that follow this do any of these have a more relaxed geometry or a more >>>>>> comfortable ride than my Bleriot which is already comfortable? What can >>>>>> anyone tell me about the sizing changes? When Grant measured me years >>>>>> ago I >>>>>> believe he had my PBH to 83 or a bit more, while when I had help from my >>>>>> wife today it was on first measurement 80.645 and on second at 81.28 and >>>>>> a >>>>>> third at 82.5. Now when Grant measure me I thought I would pass out (well >>>>>> not really but it was a bit drastic) and the bike had no extra standover >>>>>> for me. The Bleriot has a bit of standover so I have no doubt that I >>>>>> could >>>>>> probably go down a bit. It also looks like the TT have gotten even longer >>>>>> on these bikes, not maybe the added degree of slope makes that a non >>>>>> issue >>>>>> and maybe there is something there with position of the rider on these. >>>>>> Do the longer chain stays contribute to more comfort? >>>>>> I also ride upright. >>>>>> >>>>>> So I guess I am confused. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any input is appreciated. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, Joel >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>>>> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/WdEHPCJKVGU/unsubscribe >>>>> . >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/b07f499d-a176-4009-b0b3-152c3efb7df4o%40googlegroups.com >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/b07f499d-a176-4009-b0b3-152c3efb7df4o%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> ~IMPORTANT~ Note to all~~ EMAIL ETIQUETTE >>>> If you forward this email, please highlight and delete the forwarding >>>> history, which includes my email address and maybe others. 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