Joel, Another thing I find critical to feeling safe and I’m not sure if anyone brought it up is a mirror. It helps so much to be aware of things especially as one's flexibility isn’t what it once was. David
> On Aug 21, 2020, at 7:15 PM, Joel Stern <jrster...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Yeah, it had flaws for sure . I’ve lost all of my words should say giving > away all of my cycling jerseys and I’m gonna need to pick up some bright > colored T-shirts and other things to be seen when I’m riding. I don’t ride at > night so that’s not an issue but these people should be able to see me. And > of course we all know that’s really not gonna help all that much because > people can be looking at their phones and doing a variety of other things. > > On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 6:21 PM Toshi Takeuchi <tto...@gmail.com > <mailto:tto...@gmail.com>> wrote: > The study referenced below asked the viewers when they were confident they > saw a cyclist. > > The study did not ask when they saw a potential road hazard/something to > watch out for. > > Therefore they could see a bright shirt and think, well maybe it's a > pedestrian or a construction worker, but not a cyclist. > > --However, practically speaking, it is important to note that they saw it and > it is a potential hazard that they should not hit. The driver doesn't have > to know it's a cyclist to know that you don't want to run into it! > > --Don't get the impression that a black shirt is as good as a fluorescent > shirt because it didn't help you get recognized as a cyclist any better. > That fluorescent shirt is going to tell the drivers don't run into me > (whether it's a pedestrian, cyclist or construction worker!) much better than > a black shirt, and this study didn't test for that. > > Toshi > > > Toshi > > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 4:57 PM Joel Stern <jrster...@gmail.com > <mailto:jrster...@gmail.com>> wrote: > I read a study that pretty much said that > https://www.roadbikerider.com/incisive-new-studies-on-cyclist-visibility-d3/ > <https://www.roadbikerider.com/incisive-new-studies-on-cyclist-visibility-d3/> > On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 6:55 PM Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com > <mailto:bertin...@gmail.com>> wrote: > Joel: I'm glad you were not hit, > > Ads appear from time to time advertising the "brightest tail light" and while > I've not seen any recently I think NiteRider and Cygolight make 2 of the > bright ones. But I wonder if bright lights, any more than neon-yellow > clothing, will make much difference in bright sunlight -- "studies showed" > that clothing color didn't. > > What happened? > > > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 3:55 PM Joel <jrster...@gmail.com > <mailto:jrster...@gmail.com>> wrote: > 2 close calls in one day. My red blinking cateye is useless in daylight. 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