OR sells something similar to that and I picked one up. No weed screen to 
pilfer though. I figured the shorter brim would be better for on bike use. For 
me sun protection is more important than a helmet although I could likely put a 
helmet on over the hat.

https://www.amazon.com/Outdoor-Research-Sombriolet-Bucket-Saddle/dp/B078XXSXW7/ref=pd_aw_sim_nf_1?pd_rd_w=BPDmy&pf_rd_p=1c4396a5-4813-44e8-9228-e517f2516e94&pf_rd_r=ZT0N2KASXXDZAJGAC71W&pd_rd_r=215c297f-acc6-4610-80ed-73f1d936d9ff&pd_rd_wg=Pj3sI&pd_rd_i=B08GV1SYXX

Robert Tilley
San Diego, CA

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> On Dec 9, 2020, at 4:51 PM, Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> That looks spot on; thanks.
> 
> Nick, I think online sellers may carry Kooringal in the US, or shippable to 
> the US, but it looks as if there are many alternatives stateside.
> 
> (As teenager we affected African bush hats like this one. We'd pry out the 
> little vent screens and use them as filters for our pot pipes, which we made 
> them the local bamboo, to keep from sucking debris up the stem. We often did 
> poor jobs of cleaning the stuff, which was sold with a branch of the plant 
> wadded up and dried in a big ball wrapped in newspaper, with stems, seeds, 
> and everything, so you'd have to clean out the junk to get the 25 or 30% that 
> was smokable. I have no particular nostalgia for the pot -- nor any guilt nor 
> righteous indignation at the stuff either; but I do have it for the hats and 
> pipes and Bata Safari Boots.)
> 
> <image.png>
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 11:13 AM greenteadrinkers 
>> <greenteadrink...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Right, looking at the links you started out with, this seems a fairly close 
>> match: 
>> 
>> https://www.outdoorresearch.com/us/papyrus-brim-sun-hat-243408?cat=124,24,6,402
>> 
>> Can't say I have any experience with that hat, but, I've never had an issue 
>> with any OR products.
>> 
>> $36 fairly inexpensive.
>> 
>>> On Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 1:03:47 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>> Thanks much, all. I've looked at each suggestion, and will go back -- it 
>>> has been a long time! -- to Ex Officio and Outdoor Research.
>>> 
>>> After reviewing the particular suggestions, I think I'll look for a 
>>> cowboy-type of hat; after all, this is the southwest, and there seem to be 
>>> quite a few made from mesh of one sort or another.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Not really like this one, though ...
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 2:04 PM Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> We've discussed hiking or walking shoes, walking as supplementary exercise 
>>>> to cycling, and now --- hats. BTW, more walking, with attention to posture 
>>>> and longer stride, seems to have helped the minor back injury a great deal 
>>>> -- which obviously makes riding more comfortable -- so thanks for that.
>>>> 
>>>> Even in December the afternoon sun is very strong here at 5K+ feet, and my 
>>>> old straw cowboy hat, almost perfect when new, has stretched to the point 
>>>> where it comes down over my ears.
>>>> 
>>>> I want something with a wide brim, as light and ventilated as possible, 
>>>> and with a more structured look, not a crush hat.
>>>> 
>>>> I see all sorts of highly praised ones online; this and this and this, for 
>>>> example:
>>>> 
>>>> https://tinyurl.com/Dorfman-Pacific
>>>> 
>>>> https://tinyurl.com/RedHead-Aussie
>>>> 
>>>> https://tinyurl.com/Henschel-Aussie-Breezer
>>>> 
>>>> I've not bought a new hat, except for cycling caps, since about 1997, so I 
>>>> know next to nothing about them. 
>>>> 
>>>> I don't mind paying $100 for something that is really better than what you 
>>>> get for under $40, but the difference will have to be real.
>>>> 
>>>> I hate baseball caps.
>>>> 
>>>> Comments and suggestions?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> 
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Patrick Moore
>>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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