One thing about Tilley hats that may not have been mentioned is that most 
are washable, and I like a hat that can withstand repeated washings.   My 
Airflow (now 6 years old) gets sweat stained and generally nasty, but a 
quick wash in the sink and it looks and smells like new - and keeps its 
shape.  I just wring it out and put it back on my head.  It's also all 
synthetic materials so the size has remained constant, where some of my 
cotton hats have shrunk.  I loved my 'Ultimate' brand boating hat, but had 
to soak it and stretch it over a head-sized bucket and it still shrunk 
back.  Filson doesn't seem to make any truly well-ventilated hats and their 
waxed cotton can't be thoroughly cleaned; mine got pretty ripe after a year 
or two.  There are probably a lot of good hats out there, but I'd buy 
another Tilley if mine got lost.

Jack  "bald and with pallid cancer-prone Irish skin, so hats are my friend"





On Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 6:55:30 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Thanks. This looks likely: 
> https://www.tilley.com/us_en/ltm8-airflo-mesh-hat.html
>
> But tell me, why is it worth 3X the price of this one? 
> https://www.outdoorresearch.com/us/papyrus-brim-sun-hat-243408?cat=124,24,6,402
>
> As I said at the beginning, I'll happily pay $100 for a hat if I get value 
> for the $$, but I need to be convinced that a $90 or $100 hat is worth 2 or 
> 3 times the price of the $36 the OR hat. 
>
> What do the more expensive ones offer that the cheaper ones don't?
>
> As Lord Peter Wimsey so sagely and sententiously observed so long ago, "It 
> is not the brand that guarantees the quality, but the quality that 
> guarantees the brand."
>
> Patrick '7 3/4"' Moore
>
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 7:37 PM Berkeleyan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> For me, it's a *Tillley*. I have two, one in a greenish tint, the other 
>> Johnny Cash black. The green goes camping, backpacking, and bicycle 
>> touring, the black is for Zoom calls and walking to restaurants before 
>> covid times. They are superb in all aspects of construction, give very good 
>> shade, are reasonably rain-resistant, have a secret pocket for C-notes, and 
>> best of all, come in real hat sizes. I have a size 8 head, this is 
>> important.
>>
>> - Andrew, Berkeley
>>
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