happyriding:

I've never tried a wide range double for touring but that won't stop
me from giving an opinion.  Even with the 12-36 9 speed (probably an
excellent choice; I use a 13-32 8 speed & another lower can't hurt), I
would want a smaller ring than 30 for touring.  There are too many
unknowns such as gradient, length of climb, weather, wind, road
surface, how long you're riding that day (some days get longer than
planned) when touring to say "I'll never need a gear lower than xx".
My granny is 24 x 32 and that's barely walking speed but it gets used
on occasion.

The other issue is front shifting.  10-12 teeth differences shift
well, don't need a lot of attention, and don't often don't require
another shift at the back.  That's why you find touring triples with
24-36-48, 24-34-44, etc. ring combos.  Yes, you get lots of
duplicates.  No, you won't have "27 speeds".  But you can have a 20"
low & a 100" high with reliable shifting & not a lot of double
shifts.  BTW, you will need the 20" low a lot more than the 100" high
when carrying a load.

Steve's got a good idea with the 20 lbs of rocks.  Everyone is
surprised at how their high performance road bike changes character
when it's required to carry its own weight in payload.  Then think
about doubling that.  That's touring.

dougP

On Apr 21, 4:11 pm, happyriding <[email protected]> wrote:
> Good point about constantly needing the in between gears.  The problem
> is I don't know where that is for a touring bike.   I only have a road
> bike, which is set up with a 53x39 and 13-29, which works well for me
> in all types of terrain.
>
> I was thinking about the possibility of coupling the pending Velo
> Orange Gran Cru crank ($125), which is a 46x30 double, with a
> Rivendell/Shimano 12-36 9 speed cassette.  That would result in a
> lower top end than a 53x13 (110.1 v. 103.5).
>
> Any comments on whether that is practical?  Are doubles just not used
> for touring bikes?
>
> Thanks.
>
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