Steve, I like "I expect this great bike to be the one bike for the remainder of my riding" I have a similar thought regarding this Atlantis build.
I know nothing about the Bitex hubs other than they are a UK based company. I was actually planning on 32 hole rims. I currently weigh in at 180# and figured that would be sufficient. I think the velocity quills or cliffhangers would be great. I think it's a good aesthetic :) I appreciate to recommendation. Hugh Smitham LALA land On Thu, Feb 4, 2021, 3:35 AM Steve Cole <cole....@gmail.com> wrote: > Hugh, You and I seem to share the same aesthetic. About a year ago, I > purchased a long chain stay Atlantis. I also wanted silver hubs and rims. > I worked with James and Candice, the great folks at Analog Cycles, to make > my dream bike. It has a James-recommended silver 36H Bitex BX103R rear hub > fitted to a 9 cog cassette, a silver Schmidt SON Deluxe Wide body QR 32H > Front Hub, Velocity Quill Rims, and Sapim Race spokes. These wheels are > shod with Rene Horse 700C x 55 Antelope Hill gum wall tires. I love my > wheels, not to mention my Atlantis. I would not change a thing. Not > inexpensive, but I expect this great bike to be the one bike for the > remainder of my riding. Good luck, > > Steve Cole > Arlington, VA > > On Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 5:47:41 AM UTC-5 Fullylugged wrote: > >> Prowheelbuilder.com has the silver color Shimano 105 (R7000) rear hub for >> $61 and front for $36. 105 is a longer tested product than V-O, if you can >> live with a non polished finish, and the price is certainly right. I built >> a 650B set with these hubs and Velocity Synergy rims. More recently I >> bought a set of wheels with A23 rims and like them so far. I have 38mm >> tires on both wheelsets. A third wheelset has the polished White Ind hubs >> and Synergy wheels and 32mm tires. All of them ride just fine. >> >> On Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 2:34:54 AM UTC-6 Hugh Smitham wrote: >> >>> Ben, >>> >>> You don't sound argumentative and I appreciate your opinion. >>> >>> Is that article online? If it is, I'd appreciate a link, I'm curious to >>> read Jan's opinion on this matter. I was expressing someone else's belief >>> which I think I mentioned. I have had various experiences with larger tires >>> and depending on the rim and psi I've felt the tire roll or collapse on >>> cornering. Probably user error, running too low of a tire pressure. I've >>> had 2.1 thunder burts on a 23mm rim and 2.8 and 3.0's on a DT Swiss 40mm >>> rim and on my AHH I ran Velocity A23's with numerous tires from 38 to 42mm. >>> As far as the Pacenti rims I think my buddies opinion was simply the j hook >>> that holds the bead on isn't a good as say the HED's but good god $165 per >>> rim. I actually like the look of the Pacenti rim. Although I can't recall >>> where I heard this but they were difficult to set up tubeless? I may be >>> wrong on this matter. If you have first had experience with the Pacenti I'm >>> happy to listen/hear. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> ~Hugh >>> >>> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep >>> moving.” ― Albert Einstein >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 11:31 PM Ben Miller <ben.l....@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Hugh, >>>> >>>> Sounds like you know what you are after in terms of rim size, and yeah >>>> as you found I think you're choices in silver are limited. >>>> >>>> I'm not trying to argue or change you're mind, but I am going to offer >>>> a counterpoint to anyone else you is following this thread. Jan of Bicycle >>>> Quarterly has opinion that rim width on larger tyres doesn't effect >>>> handling. He has a brief section in his recent book on this very subject >>>> called "rim width and cornering" that includes a compelling (to me) >>>> example. And, from my own experience, I have 60 mm wide tyres on Velocity >>>> Dyads which have an internal width of 18.6 mm. >>>> >>>> Everyone has their own experiences and preferences, which is one of the >>>> best things about building up bikes because you get to express that. I'm >>>> sure you'll be happy with you're piece of mind on wider rims! Best of luck. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 9:29:32 PM UTC-8 Weston Hein wrote: >>>> >>>>> The wheelset on my Clem is built from the previous generation VO >>>>> touring hubs (same manufacturer?) laced to Cliffhangers. I've run 2.35 >>>>> G-One speeds and 55mm Antelope hills on them and both tires set up very >>>>> easily tubeless using velocity rim tape. >>>>> >>>>> I'm really happy with the hubs- they feel really smooth and have >>>>> minimal resistance when spinning them in the stand. I'd rate the free hub >>>>> as medium loudness. It's not a hub noise that I would "notice" as being >>>>> unusually loud if that makes sense. No high pitched buzz or anything that >>>>> makes you focus on it. But it's definitely not Shimano quiet. I did quiet >>>>> it down some using some Dumonde Tech free hub grease but the effect wore >>>>> off and I stopped reapplying it as the hub noise doesn't really bother me. >>>>> >>>>> Hubs have been problem free for 3 years of Seattle commuting/light >>>>> touring and off-road riding. The free hub is incredibly easy to service >>>>> and >>>>> the bearings are easy to access too (though I haven't had to replace >>>>> them). >>>>> All in all I think it's a great value for a nice looking, no nonsense hub. >>>>> Can't argue with the quality of White, but if you're looking for a lower >>>>> price point the VO may be a great option. If I needed another 135 qr >>>>> wheelset, I'd choose these hubs again, especially with the excellent >>>>> customer support that I've had from VO in the past. >>>>> On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 8:47:47 PM UTC-8 Hugh Smitham wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Michael, >>>>>> >>>>>> Here are the specs for the Cliffhangers and A23's. You'll notice the >>>>>> A23's optimal max tire width is 35mm >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/cliffhanger-584 >>>>>> >>>>>> And the cliffhanger optimal tire widths are between 45mm and 65mm the >>>>>> schwabe g1's are 2.25 or approximately 56 mm. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/cliffhanger-584 >>>>>> >>>>>> I imagine your going to run a narrower tire? >>>>>> >>>>>> Best Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Hugh >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2021, 8:33 PM velomann <velo...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Velocity A-23 rims come in silver, are tubeless compatible, and have >>>>>>> a brake track. >>>>>>> I have a pir I'm going to build up for my Sam as soon as I track >>>>>>> down the right hubs. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mike M >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 5:32:18 PM UTC-8 Hugh Smitham >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So as not to offend any long-term members on this list I did first >>>>>>>> do a search and did not find an answer to my question? I believe back >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> 2018 William Henderson in PDX after an accident had a wheel set built >>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>> the same hubs I'm considering, if he could chime in that would be >>>>>>>> excellent. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On with the question, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Does anybody have experience with the Velo Orange Grand Cru 135mm >>>>>>>> QR Shimano hub? Specifically, has it held up over time? How does it >>>>>>>> feel? >>>>>>>> Does it spin freely? How does it sound? Meaning is it silent or does it >>>>>>>> have a loud ratcheting noise? What were your initial impressions of the >>>>>>>> build quality and then later impressions. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It's my aesthetic, I just see my new to me Atlantis built with >>>>>>>> silver shiny hubs otherwise I'd build my new wheels with a DT Swiss 350 >>>>>>>> rear hub and be done. I'm considering a White Industries hub but that's >>>>>>>> close to $200 more over the VO hub. Just debating whether the extra $$ >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> worth it? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm going with the Velocity Cliffhangers, wish they came in silver >>>>>>>> :( Planning on running schwabe g ones in 2.25" evolutions for cush and >>>>>>>> speed. If you have a recommendation on rims that will allow for >>>>>>>> tubeless, >>>>>>>> decent tire profile in silver please lmk. FYI not going with the HED >>>>>>>> Belgian rims at $165 nope! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm also looking for the Riv stem shifters currently out of stock >>>>>>>> on the Riv Hq site. If anyone has a pair that they're willing to part >>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>> let me know? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best Regards, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hugh in Sunny SoCal Los Angeles to be exact. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Since I'm honorable and might as well ask another question. I plan >>>>>>>> on running aluminum albatross bars any recommendations for grips. My >>>>>>>> preference is a easily removed grip like the Ergon which I have. 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