This is turning into an interesting discussion, here's my measurements on a 
Clem Smith L;

Frame = 6.6lbs
Fork = 2.4lbs
*Total = 9lbs*

With a very typical Riv build kit including dynamo wheel, front & rear 
Nitto racks and a bell, the total weight comes to 37.2lbs.

On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 7:19:05 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Wow, 40 lb! No matter if the bike is fun to ride. But I regularly carried 
> 35 lb in groceries, and up to 45 lb, on a very light *tout 531* early 
> '70s Motobecane racing frame with 11 oz Tubus Fly rack with no problems in 
> the 2 or 3 years that it was my principal grocery and commuting beater -- I 
> was commuting 15-16 miles 1-way across town back then. 67" fixed gear with 
> full fenders and considerable TCO; set up for a while with wonderfully 
> capacious rear panniers constructed from $5, 10 gallon white plastic 
> kitchen trash cans from Target. You *do not* need a 40 lb bike to carry 
> heavy loads!
>
> On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 5:38 PM Ben Mihovk <bjmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Very interesting discussion! I don't think I care about weight, but I 
>> think it's nice to know what you're working with. My MIT 59cm Atlantis is a 
>> whopping 39 pounds apparently. That seems WAY heavier than it should be, 
>> but I do have a Mark's rack and basket, a flimsy/cheap rear rack, an 
>> X-small Sacvkille bag on the saddle with all my flat repair 
>> tools/multitool/spare tube, and empty x-small Sackville on the handlebars 
>> that I put my phone, keys, wallet in, and I have Atlas rims, shikoro tires, 
>> tubes, etc....
>>
>> I think I could do a lighter setup for fast/fun riding, but since I ride 
>> to work as much as I can, the stouter and heavier frame of the Atlantis was 
>> needed as I carry at least 10lbs of stuff (weight of market bags that hang 
>> on the rear rack + laptop, charger, etc... Maybe someday I'll get a Sam and 
>> put nothing but a pair of bottle cages on it. 
>>
>> Ben in Omaha
>>
>

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