brendonoid commented    "If I was running indexed I honestly don't know 
what the advantage would be? It would be very hard to tell and the few but 
significant downsides would seem not worth it to me."

Shimano probably came to the same conclusion.  I wish Grant well with his 
Low Normal fascination, but think it takes time from other items.  

Did know of one RD cable breaking on a hilly portion.  We were able to ride 
downhill to a shop to get a new cable.

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 8:10:19 AM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:

> Just done a few hundred kms with a rapid rise. Have never used one before, 
> I certainly feel the advantages friction shifting it. If I was running 
> indexed I honestly don't know what the advantage would be? It would be very 
> hard to tell and the few but significant downsides would seem not worth it 
> to me.
>
> - The cable and barrel adjuster are the most fragile part of a derraileur 
> and in Rapid rise protrude right out there, could break it just dropping 
> the bike.
> - Requires an intact shifter cable and fully functioning shifter to remove 
> the rear wheel.
> - Breaking a lifetime of habit to shift correctly isn't actually very easy 
> to do.
>
> Grants latest Blahg showed a CAD image of his new rapidrise and I would 
> like to suggest it would be super simple to run the cable pull on the 
> inside of the parrallelogram. Would require a redesign of the top but be 
> worth it IMHO.
>
> On Tuesday, 13 July 2021 at 13:47:08 UTC+8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> I had one for a short while and found it finicky to install and 
>> counterintuitive to shift. I'm sure both of these reactions are based on 
>> decades of high-normal derailers, I think RapidRise is probably better for 
>> new riders who've never messed with the other way. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 10:08:30 PM UTC-7 Sam Perez wrote:
>>
>>> Hey guys, 
>>> Why is there so little info on rapid rise RD and why is it so 
>>> polarizing. Sources include bike snob grants blog and random internet 
>>> sources. Takeaways were finicky and needing frequent adjustment but also 
>>> great concept and easy down shifting. Any experience thoughts insights? 
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>
>>

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