Brendonoid, can you tell me more about an intact cable to remove the wheel , I 
could imagine a shifter would need to hold its position against tension to 
remain on the smallest cog for wheel removal.

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> On Jul 13, 2021, at 5:10 AM, brendonoid <bren...@areyoualert.com> wrote:
> 
> Just done a few hundred kms with a rapid rise. Have never used one before, I 
> certainly feel the advantages friction shifting it. If I was running indexed 
> I honestly don't know what the advantage would be? It would be very hard to 
> tell and the few but significant downsides would seem not worth it to me.
> 
> - The cable and barrel adjuster are the most fragile part of a derraileur and 
> in Rapid rise protrude right out there, could break it just dropping the bike.
> - Requires an intact shifter cable and fully functioning shifter to remove 
> the rear wheel.
> - Breaking a lifetime of habit to shift correctly isn't actually very easy to 
> do.
> 
> Grants latest Blahg showed a CAD image of his new rapidrise and I would like 
> to suggest it would be super simple to run the cable pull on the inside of 
> the parrallelogram. Would require a redesign of the top but be worth it IMHO.
> 
>> On Tuesday, 13 July 2021 at 13:47:08 UTC+8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>> I had one for a short while and found it finicky to install and 
>> counterintuitive to shift. I'm sure both of these reactions are based on 
>> decades of high-normal derailers, I think RapidRise is probably better for 
>> new riders who've never messed with the other way. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 10:08:30 PM UTC-7 Sam Perez wrote:
>>> Hey guys, 
>>> Why is there so little info on rapid rise RD and why is it so polarizing. 
>>> Sources include bike snob grants blog and random internet sources. 
>>> Takeaways were finicky and needing frequent adjustment but also great 
>>> concept and easy down shifting. Any experience thoughts insights? 
>>> 
>>> Thanks
> 
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