My experience is I stopped having problems when I took over the packing. I 
hate it and didn't consider myself good at it, but after a while it became 
clear that "reputable bike shops" are extremely spotty about this skill. I 
still hate it and it takes me forever, but my self-packed bikes have all 
arrived to happy buyers. 

Joe "never again 'til next time" Bernard

On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 5:48:32 PM UTC-7 maxcr wrote:

> Not a rant, just a fact - it's just not worth the hassle.
>
> I have sold 3 bikes locally with no issue. Then, out of the other 3 that I 
> have sold - all packed professionally by reputable bike shops and shipped 
> with a full service shipper (bikeflights or the other one)- I have had 
> problems with two of them.
>
> They have insurance and I can go fight the carrier for it, or the LBS or 
> the buyer, but it's just not worth the hassle... not doing it anymore.
>
> What's your experience shipping bikes? What am I doing wrong?
>
> Max
> Trying to make things right by the buyer of my AHH
>

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