I can lose the weight of two complete Rivendell spec complete Clems off of my body, and still be overweight, so saving grams off of the bike and low spoke counts are not as important to me as they were back in the seventies. So why does my Gus Boots Wilsen have a titanium stem and handlebars? And I do own a Park bicycle scale and know the weight of my 1971 Gitane before and after I applied Weigle frame saver. I can feel the difference when I put lighter tires on a bicycle, but when people start talking about frames "planing", I get that same feeling that I do when artsy types try to explain why a painting that consists of two black dots on a canvas is a work of genius. And for proponents of tubeless tires, what in the world is a pinch flat? In my 50+ years of riding derailleur equipped bicycles, I have never had a pinch flat and am not really sure what one is. A flat is what happens when a thin steel wire from a worn-out steel belted radial automobile tire is picked up from the pavement by my bicycle tire and penetrates the tube. We all have a way of determining what and what is not important to us, and it is not necessarily consistent or logical.
Laing lives in Florida where we don't have any type of native stone - all stones are imported. On Friday, November 19, 2021 at 3:25:09 PM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote: > I'm guessing it's not so much a conspiracy as it is the fact that a lot of > rivendell owners are the type of riders who just don't think or care as > much about weight as some other bikers do. At least I'm that way: I dont > buy cheap frames or put unnecessarily heavy or fragile components on them, > so the bike weighs what it weighs. Sometimes I get curious, but not enough > to buy or borrow a scale, or to go to the trouble of removing things like > leather saddles and bags and racks fenders - which would be necessary to > level the baseline to most cited bike weights, but which would make the > measurement meaningless and the bike useless. > > > > > On Friday, November 19, 2021 at 10:34:47 AM UTC-7 aeroperf wrote: > >> While we’re going "arghhhh!"... >> A number of threads have asked, and one of the questions could be >> answered just by hanging a bike on the scale at your LBS. >> >> I was hoping Leah would weigh Peppermint Platy before and after her >> build, but I guess that’s OBE. >> How about somebody go weigh their Clem, and somebody go weigh their >> Gus/Susie, and somebody go weigh their Platypus - and report back? >> >> Whether bike weight actually makes a difference or not, there seems to be >> a conspiracy about not reporting Rivendell bike weights. >> We’ve had people talk about getting them up a flight of stairs, or >> hanging them on a rack, but nobody actually puts out a number. >> >> I’ll start. Here’s mine: >> 2015 Sam, size 55, as supplied by Rivendell: >> Bar end shifters, Suguino XD2 triple crank, FD-3030 front, Atlas 700c >> wheels, Conti SpeedRide tubed tires, Shimano RD-M591 rear, Shimano R550 >> levers, Tektro R-559 brakes, cork grips. >> Add a Serfas RX-921V saddle, Blackspire pedals, Zefal fenders, and a bell. >> 29 pounds, 3 oz >> >> Add a Blackburn EX-1 rack and BCC 12.12 computer and my typical riding >> weight comes in a just a smidge under 30.5 pounds. >> >> A Homer, size 51, set up exactly the same way except Deore FC-M590 crank >> and FD-M610 derailleur came in at 29 pounds 14 oz. Smaller bike, thinner >> tubing, lighter crank. >> >> It’s not a Susie or a Clem or a Platy, but it is a data point. Next time >> at your LBS, take one minute and have them weigh your bike. >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/12322e67-3ed8-41c2-8ce0-b3ee4a09c077n%40googlegroups.com.
