I ended up deciding to buy a Homer complete. Crashed my wet-weather bike 
last Monday and separated my shoulder. Took it as a sign that I need fatter 
tires and more stable handling. I have an 90 pbh and I'm going with a 58, 
which surprised me, since I would've been a 61.5 last time. Worried it'll 
be too small, but I trust Riv. I'm thinking about albastaches or drops, but 
I do intend to take this on longer event rides, so I want to be sure the 
bars work for that. I have mustaches on my Quickbeam and I love them for 
rides up to 40-50 miles.

I've never actually bought a complete from Riv, so I'm excited about the 
spec'ing process. Send ideas! Dyads or A23s? Albastaches or Noodles? Which 
crank? 

On Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 7:26:32 PM UTC-5 Drew Henson wrote:

> Does anyone know why one might sell a perfectly fine 58cm homer with 650b 
> tires (bought almost 3 years ago) and get one of these new 54.5cm with 700c 
> tires and downtube bosses? 
>
> Ok, I admit it, it's me. I have a 58 cm, 650b'd homer. My pbh is 87,  the 
> 58 is just a tad long for me if I want to run noodles but it is an 
> otherwise ideal commuter with chaco bars. But I am for some reason very 
> tempted by the newer frame. 
>
> On Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 4:21:51 PM UTC-8 jrst...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Oooops, 2019 specs.  
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 6:24:12 PM UTC-5 J S wrote:
>>
>>> I saw it after Eric and it basically looks like the 2919 specs.  Same 
>>> standover, same chainstay.  I am tempted but not quite ready as the Bleriot 
>>> may be a better compliment to my Hillborne.   
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 4:56 PM Eric Marth <eric...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> J Stern -- Look at the image gallery on the Homer page. Has a photo of 
>>>> a big geo chart written on cardboard. 
>>>> On Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 4:33:28 PM UTC-5 bjmi...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Good news...the place on the website where the charts has been cleared 
>>>>> of charts and says...
>>>>>
>>>>> "We're working on this - what we had was hopelessly outdated.  Call us 
>>>>> with questions at 800-345-3918 <(800)%20345-3918>.
>>>>>
>>>>> -will"
>>>>>
>>>>> It'll be nice to see some updated charts. 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 3:29:23 PM UTC-6 jrst...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I see the one they posted with the frame, basically the same as 2019. 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 4:26:11 PM UTC-5 J S wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What updated charts, I just see the 2019.  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 3:28:50 PM UTC-5 sof...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm so tempted. But with the updated pbh chart, I think I'm just 
>>>>>>>> short of fitting smallest size. Good thing I have my platy and clem on 
>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>> way...
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 3:19:25 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The Homer Sale is live, 15 minutes in and all sizes are still 
>>>>>>>>> available.  There are 25 in 58cm, which is the size I think I'd buy 
>>>>>>>>> if I 
>>>>>>>>> wanted a fancy albastache country bike.  Are you buying one?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bill Lindsay
>>>>>>>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>>>>>>>
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