Johnny, I had those brakes on a bike once. Very good stopping power; they 
seemed a little stouter than other sidepulls. 

On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 6:43:41 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Forgot the link.
>
>
> https://velo-orange.com/collections/brakes/products/grand-cru-long-reach-brakes
>
> On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 7:43:25 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> If I had a bike that needed long sidepulls these are the ones I would 
>> have. I have used them before and I don't think there is a long reach that 
>> is as strong.
>>
>> On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 6:58:27 PM UTC-4 Ted Durant wrote:
>>
>>> On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 8:37:19 AM UTC-5 Pierre wrote:
>>>
>>>> Not super happy with the original Silver calipers raw stopping power 
>>>> (admittedly quite spoiled by excellent hydro discs on other bikes).
>>>>
>>>
>>> I had mixed results with Silver/Tektro long-reach dual-pivot brakes. On 
>>> my Bleriot, with some dual-compound pads, they were brilliant. On other 
>>> bikes I had less brilliant experiences. I suspect it had something to do 
>>> with the levers I was using, but I never did a full, controlled experiment. 
>>> The levers on my Bleriot were older Aero Gran Compe. I also can suggest 
>>> that low-compression cable housing made a difference for me.
>>>
>>> That said, the Yokozuna hybrid disc brakes on my newest bike (which 
>>> replaced the Bleriot) are a very different feel. I can't definitely say 
>>> they have more ultimate power, but it takes a lot less hand power to get to 
>>> max.
>>>
>>> I have the Dia Compe 610-N calipers (not on braze-ons) on a bike and 
>>> they proved to be excellent stoppers when I was riding pretty fast and a 
>>> car turned left in front of me. Had the back wheel well off the ground and 
>>> stopped with about a foot to spare. Again, they need a bit more hand power 
>>> than the disc brakes to get to that point, but not a lot. 
>>>
>>> My experience with cantilevers is considerably more mixed than with the 
>>> long-reach dual-pivots. Everywhere from sublime to frightening.
>>>
>>> Ted Durant
>>> Milwaukee, WI USA
>>>
>>

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