I assume the folks at Rivendell find them adequate. I’ve used the 559s (with kook stop pads) on a fixed gear with a front brake only in the mountains and found it worked fine. I’ve actually done this on multiple 650b fixed conversions. I’ve even used DC750s in this setup.
I’ve also used the Mafac Raids and thought they were fine (but finicky to set up sans squealing). I like v brakes the most for ease of setup and stopping power but many people find them “grabby.” I have yet to find a brake I find inadequate (with kool stop pads). I think brake performance expectations vary quite a bit. Best, Aaron in El Paso On Jul 9, 2022, at 18:52, Johnny Alien <johnny.alien...@gmail.com> wrote: I didn't realize those brakes would not work. They were marked as long reach. I can't remember what I used them on before but it must have been something for mid-reach brakes. IMO I am just baffled they keep making bikes for those brakes when there are no great options with great stopping power. Especially when there are so many nice V, mini-V and canti brakes out there. On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 8:28:16 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote: > Yes, the AHH in question uses long reach calipers, not mid reach like the VO. > > My experience with long reach calipers has been universally bad (Tektro, DC > centerpulls). They're adequate in the dry, but with wet rims, there is no > stopping power at all. > > I like a lot about the AHH, but I wouldn't get it due to the brakes. > > Eric > Plain City, OH > where I'm not really satisfied with the mid reach Tektros on my current > Trek,either > > On Sat, Jul 9, 2022 at 8:21 PM <amill...@gmail.com> wrote: >> The issue with the VO is they are only midreach (47-57). Many Riv bikes >> require longer reach. >> >> Best, >> >> Aaron in El Paso >> >> On Jul 9, 2022, at 17:55, Forrest <therealfo...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Johnny, I had those brakes on a bike once. Very good stopping power; they >> seemed a little stouter than other sidepulls. >> >> On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 6:43:41 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote: >>> Forgot the link. >>> >>> https://velo-orange.com/collections/brakes/products/grand-cru-long-reach-brakes >>> >>> On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 7:43:25 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote: >>>> If I had a bike that needed long sidepulls these are the ones I would >>>> have. I have used them before and I don't think there is a long reach that >>>> is as strong. >>>> >>>> On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 6:58:27 PM UTC-4 Ted Durant wrote: >>>>> On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 8:37:19 AM UTC-5 Pierre wrote: >>>>>> Not super happy with the original Silver calipers raw stopping power >>>>>> (admittedly quite spoiled by excellent hydro discs on other bikes). >>>>> >>>>> I had mixed results with Silver/Tektro long-reach dual-pivot brakes. On >>>>> my Bleriot, with some dual-compound pads, they were brilliant. On other >>>>> bikes I had less brilliant experiences. I suspect it had something to do >>>>> with the levers I was using, but I never did a full, controlled >>>>> experiment. The levers on my Bleriot were older Aero Gran Compe. I also >>>>> can suggest that low-compression cable housing made a difference for me. >>>>> >>>>> That said, the Yokozuna hybrid disc brakes on my newest bike (which >>>>> replaced the Bleriot) are a very different feel. I can't definitely say >>>>> they have more ultimate power, but it takes a lot less hand power to get >>>>> to max. >>>>> >>>>> I have the Dia Compe 610-N calipers (not on braze-ons) on a bike and they >>>>> proved to be excellent stoppers when I was riding pretty fast and a car >>>>> turned left in front of me. Had the back wheel well off the ground and >>>>> stopped with about a foot to spare. Again, they need a bit more hand >>>>> power than the disc brakes to get to that point, but not a lot. >>>>> >>>>> My experience with cantilevers is considerably more mixed than with the >>>>> long-reach dual-pivots. 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