On Tuesday, August 23, 2022 at 5:44:03 PM UTC-4 ttoshi wrote:

>  He might have said that the Sam H. was a perfect brevet bike and that 
> despite it being heavier than other bikes he has ridden, he was fast on the 
> bike and rode one of, if not his fastest time for a 200k on the bike.
>

This wouldn't surprise me. As lots of people have chimed in, it's mostly 
about comfort. Even if there's a lot of climbing, we're carrying a bunch of 
gear and food and the weight of the bike is a small percentage of the total 
rider/bike/gear package.

As I mentioned, my fastest 200km ride was on my Heron Road, which was a 
prototype that was built using the rear stays from the touring bike as that 
was all Waterford had at the time they built it. It also has a very heavy 
rear wheel and freewheel, and when you pick up the bike you can really feel 
how heavy the back end is, even without the steel-rail Brooks B-17 that 
used to be on it!

My Bleriot, which is very similar to the Sam H, was plenty stout (let's 
say, heavy) and I happily rode it on 200-600km rides with a wide range of 
average speeds. It's much more about the motor than the chassis, though as 
the comment on the Legolas points out, the handling has a big impact on 
long-distance comfort.

Ted Durant
Milwaukee, WI USA

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