I am sure a Paul made one would be well north of a grand. You might pay it 
but I would guess most of the regular world would not.  Especially with 
cheap RR options available used. It's not like this is a product people are 
trying desperately to get. Its a product that Rivendell is going to have to 
convince people they need. I'm up to try one but when the Altus derailer I 
have on my Clem works so f'n fantastic at $25 it's hard for me to think of 
paying 20 times that to make it go backwards. It would be an odd sell for a 
company that has long been saying the cheapest Shimano shift as good as all 
of the expensive stuff. I still hope he can pull it together I was 
certainly interested in the low end version.

On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 6:20:13 AM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:

> $19k was for one cage plate. So, two cage plates, and what? four parts of 
> the upper link? Probably well over $100k total in tooling.
>
> Bringing back rapid rise ain't worth it. 
>
> Eric
> who has tried RR but doesn't see the point
>
> On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 2:02 AM brendonoid <bre...@areyoualert.com> wrote:
>
>> A bit more concerning in the blahg was that the tooling to make the 
>> non-cnc'd version was going to cost ~$19k?
>> I suspect that would be a no go for proceeding.
>>
>> I sort of wish Paul or white industries or someone local would just do it 
>> for a crazy expensive price. At least it would be MUSA and you know it 
>> would be great quality, considering what Paul derailleurs go for in the 
>> second hand market I have no doubt he would be able to sell them even at a 
>> crazy price point.
>>
>> I wouldn't be happy paying 500 for a made in china derailleur. That is as 
>> much a political choice as anything else but I wouldn't do it. 
>> I might consider paying a grand for a Paul derailleur though...
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