Really hard to make ends meet with a 20% markup. With a 10% or 20% markup, 
you're more likely to be selling groceries than bikes.

I would be discouraged too. Working hard and putting lots of resources 
behind a project you love - only to have it become impossible is really 
tough to deal with.

Regards,

Corwin

On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 6:14:35 AM UTC-7 J J wrote:

> Yeah, I read the blog. The $345 would presumably be Riv's wholesale price, 
> right? So... assuming a nominal retail markup of, say, 20%, the  price 
> would be ~$415 for the end user. No idea if there is a standard industry 
> markup, and we know Rivendell marches to their own rhythm. A 10% markup 
> would be ~$380; 30% ~$450. Grant seemed disheartened. I really appreciate 
> his transparency. 
> (Your build videos are great btw Eric.)  
>
> On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 8:57:56 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Great pics, Ana, and yeah, those Nexaves are quite large! 
>>
>> Did you all read the latest Blahg? Seems the prototypes are crazy 
>> expensive. They'll be CNC machined. Here's Grant's quote from the 
>> fabricators: 
>>
>> "50 pieces. These will be made by CNC machining.... They will cost $345.5 
>> USD each,  total $17,275 USD. The cost base on the QTY"
>>
>> More here.  
>> <https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/grant-petersens-blog/done-done-wrong-proably-still-doing-wrong>Um,
>>  
>> does it seem like maybe 50 Rivendell customers would pool together and 
>> chunk in a non-refundable $350 towards getting this project moving in the 
>> (opposite) direction?  
>> On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 3:24:45 AM UTC-4 Ana Candela wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, and love it! I got one last year thanks to Grant's suggestion: 
>>> Shimano Nexave RD-C505. It is rather large compared to the other ones I'm 
>>> seeing posted here, but hey, function before form. I am very much looking 
>>> forward to Rivendell's derailer project because function will be enhanced 
>>> by form. I think it's coming along beautifully :)
>>>
>>> My RR der is the #1 upgrade that I've done to my bike, and that's saying 
>>> a lot! The reason is thanks to its logic of shifting: it doesn't twist my 
>>> brain and wreak havoc like "normal" ones do. I always thought the shifting 
>>> in bikes was counterintuitive, but I assumed that was the way of derailers. 
>>> Then at some point Grant brought up the rapid-rise derailers in the Blahg, 
>>> and I almost heard angels sing, haha!
>>>
>>> Now both derailers work with the same logic: if I'm climbing UP a hill, 
>>> I pull either or both shifters UP (easy gear); if I'm going DOWN or flat at 
>>> speed, I push DOWN (hard gear). This just makes sense. And then with 
>>> friction shifters it is just delightful to shift. So smooth and almost 
>>> silent. Bliss!
>>>
>>> Below are a couple photos from last Sunday. Long live the Rapid-Rise 
>>> Derailer!
>>>
>>> -Ana in Seattle
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_6954.jpg]
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_6934.jpg]
>>>
>>

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