That cage looks too short to shift a 34t cassette, let alone my current 
51t. I did try a bike with a rapid rise RD when I visited Rivendell. It 
feels kinda funny, but no doubt I'd get used to it. But the limited 
derailleur wrap would definitely rule it out for my use.

On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 6:41:55 AM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote:

> In case anyone missed it, Grant posted some updates 
> <https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/om-1-rear-derailer-update?mc_cid=657279a7fe&mc_eid=592b20cfa2>
>  
> on their new derailer.
>
> Looks like they found another place to have them fabricated (no more $350 
> samples for them) and that retail cost (for us!) will be $175. That's about 
> $125 more than I've ever paid for a rear derailer. What do you all think? 
> Would you spend the $175 for one of these when you can get a vintage 
> Shimano rapid rise on ebay for way less? 
>
> Image below is latest design. I think they mentioned on instagram that the 
> red parts will *not* *be red.* Thank goodness. Give me silver with black 
> pulley wheels. If you thought that Shimano 600EX arabesque flourishes were 
> too groovy, well, check out the peace sign detail in that pulley cage. 
>
>
>
> [image: download.png]
>
> On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 5:34:42 PM UTC-4 [email protected] wrote:
>
>> Really hard to make ends meet with a 20% markup. With a 10% or 20% 
>> markup, you're more likely to be selling groceries than bikes.
>>
>> I would be discouraged too. Working hard and putting lots of resources 
>> behind a project you love - only to have it become impossible is really 
>> tough to deal with.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Corwin
>>
>> On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 6:14:35 AM UTC-7 J J wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, I read the blog. The $345 would presumably be Riv's wholesale 
>>> price, right? So... assuming a nominal retail markup of, say, 20%, the 
>>>  price would be ~$415 for the end user. No idea if there is a standard 
>>> industry markup, and we know Rivendell marches to their own rhythm. A 10% 
>>> markup would be ~$380; 30% ~$450. Grant seemed disheartened. I really 
>>> appreciate his transparency. 
>>> (Your build videos are great btw Eric.)  
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 8:57:56 AM UTC-4 [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>>> Great pics, Ana, and yeah, those Nexaves are quite large! 
>>>>
>>>> Did you all read the latest Blahg? Seems the prototypes are crazy 
>>>> expensive. They'll be CNC machined. Here's Grant's quote from the 
>>>> fabricators: 
>>>>
>>>> "50 pieces. These will be made by CNC machining.... They will cost 
>>>> $345.5 USD each,  total $17,275 USD. The cost base on the QTY"
>>>>
>>>> More here.  
>>>> <https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/grant-petersens-blog/done-done-wrong-proably-still-doing-wrong>Um,
>>>>  
>>>> does it seem like maybe 50 Rivendell customers would pool together and 
>>>> chunk in a non-refundable $350 towards getting this project moving in the 
>>>> (opposite) direction?  
>>>> On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 3:24:45 AM UTC-4 Ana Candela wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, and love it! I got one last year thanks to Grant's suggestion: 
>>>>> Shimano Nexave RD-C505. It is rather large compared to the other ones I'm 
>>>>> seeing posted here, but hey, function before form. I am very much looking 
>>>>> forward to Rivendell's derailer project because function will be enhanced 
>>>>> by form. I think it's coming along beautifully :)
>>>>>
>>>>> My RR der is the #1 upgrade that I've done to my bike, and that's 
>>>>> saying a lot! The reason is thanks to its logic of shifting: it doesn't 
>>>>> twist my brain and wreak havoc like "normal" ones do. I always thought 
>>>>> the 
>>>>> shifting in bikes was counterintuitive, but I assumed that was the way of 
>>>>> derailers. Then at some point Grant brought up the rapid-rise derailers 
>>>>> in 
>>>>> the Blahg, and I almost heard angels sing, haha!
>>>>>
>>>>> Now both derailers work with the same logic: if I'm climbing UP a 
>>>>> hill, I pull either or both shifters UP (easy gear); if I'm going DOWN or 
>>>>> flat at speed, I push DOWN (hard gear). This just makes sense. And then 
>>>>> with friction shifters it is just delightful to shift. So smooth and 
>>>>> almost 
>>>>> silent. Bliss!
>>>>>
>>>>> Below are a couple photos from last Sunday. Long live the Rapid-Rise 
>>>>> Derailer!
>>>>>
>>>>> -Ana in Seattle
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: IMG_6954.jpg]
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: IMG_6934.jpg]
>>>>>
>>>>

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