My judgement is likely a bit premature. I failed to mention that my Bosco was 
550 wide, the ‘moose 580. I did notice the solid feel straight away although 
the FacePlater is very secure. Nice to have options.:)

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> On Sep 9, 2022, at 6:37 PM, J J <junes1ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I have a Boscomoose on my Hunq. I guess I'm fortunate that the fixed tilt 
> angle works very well for me. I had run the regular Bosco with a stem, and it 
> felt less secure than the triangulated and reinforced Boscomoose, no matter 
> how tightly I clamped the stem to the bar (and you can only go so tight 
> anyway). 
> 
> So tilt adjustments aside, the Boscomoose feels more stable, stiffer, less 
> flexy, and certainly has less unwanted movement than the separate bar and 
> stem combo, especially on bumpy terrain and any riding that requires weight 
> on the bar. This is probably a much more significant consideration for those 
> of us who weigh more than 210 than it is for folks lighter than that.
> 
>> On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 5:27:40 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>> I also learned this with the exact bars you're comparing. Bars that can't be 
>> adjusted for tilt are always a crapshoot and you're probably going to lose 
>> that bet unless the front end is really slack like a Clem or Gus/Susie. My 
>> custom IS that slack and they worked ok for me, but I still preferred the 
>> regular Bosco (which I then sold for a Billie, but that's another thread). 
>> 
>> Joe Bernard 
>> 
>>> On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 2:11:45 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Or, when to leave well enough alone? I recently traded my 650 wide Tosco 
>>> for a 550 wide Bosco. This worked to let me achieve a higher bar without 
>>> exposing more stem & even gave me the flexibility of lowering the stem a 
>>> smidge. The narrower width gave me a more natural feeling wrist angle and 
>>> overall felt much more comfortable without loosing any control. I liked it 
>>> so much that it really made me want to try a Boscomoose. 
>>> I am really interested in any others thoughts who may have compared the 
>>> Bosco & Boscomoose. My observations; even though the "extension" of the 
>>> 'moose is 120mm vs. my Faceplater's 135mm, there is in reality only 5mm 
>>> difference. This I assume is due to the upward angle of the Faceplater 
>>> extension - effectively shortening it. In any event the reach to the bar 
>>> ends is quite different. With the exact 120mm of exposed stem the bar ends 
>>> of the 'moose are nearly 2" higher than the Bosco! This I presume is mostly 
>>> due to the more horizontal & fixed angle nature of the grip areas - they do 
>>> not tilt down very much.
>>> I will probably play with these a bit more but unless I stumble on to some 
>>> adjustment magic I will be returning to the Bosco / Faceplater combo. I had 
>>> really high hopes for the Boscomoose because it just looks so cool.
> 
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