I love my Boscomoose on my clementine. I think the 3mm wider bar makes the 
5mm shorter feel natural enough as long as you can get the bar low enough 
and you have enough top tube. On the clementine the top tube is long and 
feels good. Tried them on a Romanceur and the shorter TT wanted a lower bar 
with longer stem so set up loscos. I also enjoy the extra security for off 
road riding. If you can find a set and have the spare cash, give em a 
whirrl. 

On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 4:01:11 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Definitely ride it for a while before deciding. I just tilted my Billies 
> up this week, it's probably the same angle my Boscomoose was now! 😂
>
> On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 3:49:22 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> My judgement is likely a bit premature. I failed to mention that my Bosco 
>> was 550 wide, the ‘moose 580. I did notice the solid feel straight away 
>> although the FacePlater is very secure. Nice to have options.:)
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 9, 2022, at 6:37 PM, J J <junes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have a Boscomoose on my Hunq. I guess I'm fortunate that the fixed 
>> tilt angle works very well for me. I had run the regular Bosco with a stem, 
>> and it felt less secure than the triangulated and reinforced Boscomoose, no 
>> matter how tightly I clamped the stem to the bar (and you can only go so 
>> tight anyway). 
>>
>>
>> So tilt adjustments aside, the Boscomoose feels more stable, stiffer, 
>> less flexy, and certainly has less unwanted movement than the separate bar 
>> and stem combo, especially on bumpy terrain and any riding that requires 
>> weight on the bar. This is probably a much more significant consideration 
>> for those of us who weigh more than 210 than it is for folks lighter than 
>> that.
>>
>> On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 5:27:40 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> I also learned this with the exact bars you're comparing. Bars that 
>>> can't be adjusted for tilt are always a crapshoot and you're probably going 
>>> to lose that bet unless the front end is really slack like a Clem or 
>>> Gus/Susie. My custom IS that slack and they worked ok for me, but I still 
>>> preferred the regular Bosco (which I then sold for a Billie, but that's 
>>> another thread). 
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard 
>>>
>>> On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 2:11:45 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Or, when to leave well enough alone? I recently traded my 650 wide 
>>>> Tosco for a 550 wide Bosco. This worked to let me achieve a higher bar 
>>>> without exposing more stem & even gave me the flexibility of lowering the 
>>>> stem a smidge. The narrower width gave me a more natural feeling wrist 
>>>> angle and overall felt much more comfortable without loosing any control. 
>>>> I 
>>>> liked it so much that it really made me want to try a Boscomoose. 
>>>> I am really interested in any others thoughts who may have compared the 
>>>> Bosco & Boscomoose. My observations; even though the "extension" of the 
>>>> 'moose is 120mm vs. my Faceplater's 135mm, there is in reality only 5mm 
>>>> difference. This I assume is due to the upward angle of the Faceplater 
>>>> extension - effectively shortening it. In any event the reach to the bar 
>>>> ends is quite different. With the exact 120mm of exposed stem the bar ends 
>>>> of the 'moose are nearly 2" higher than the Bosco! This I presume is 
>>>> mostly 
>>>> due to the more horizontal & fixed angle nature of the grip areas - they 
>>>> do 
>>>> not tilt down very much.
>>>> I will probably play with these a bit more but unless I stumble on to 
>>>> some adjustment magic I will be returning to the Bosco / Faceplater combo. 
>>>> I had really high hopes for the Boscomoose because it just looks so cool.
>>>>
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