Thank you for the information. On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 11:22 AM 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> Kim, that’s from 2021 — One year ago > > On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 8:59:27 AM UTC-7 krhe...@gmail.com > wrote: > >> I know the deadline has come and passed. It does not indicate as to >> whether or not if this for the Clem Smith Jr. "H" or the "L" version. >> However, for information reasons: >> >> >> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/clem-lotto-tickets-on-sale-til-friday-the-15th?_pos=1&_sid=934df0537&_ss=r >> >> Kim Hetzel >> Yelm, WA. >> >> >> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 8:02:12 AM UTC-7 fra...@gmail.com >> wrote: >> >>> >>> Absolutely. If I could pick one bike to do it all, I’d likely pick up a >>> Clem L frame. It crosses my mind often actually because I’ve always looked >>> for the “one” bike to do it all. >>> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 7:57:00 AM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com >>> wrote: >>> >>>> VERY interesting! >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Oct 19, 2022, at 10:54 AM, Kim Hetzel <krhe...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I own a 2021 59cm Clem Smith Jr. "L". I am just beginning to fully >>>> appreciate this bicycle beyond it being very comfortable. >>>> >>>> Awhile back, I asked Will Keating from Rivendell Bicycle Works a >>>> question about the differences between the Suzie and the Clem. >>>> >>>> He said, "The Susie is longer, has lighter tubing, and is fillet brazed >>>> (the Clems are tig welded) which makes them more expensive. The Susie also >>>> fits a slightly bigger tire - Clems max out at around 2.4; Susie fit a 2.6. >>>> Other than that - they are similar!" >>>> >>>> Kim Hetzel >>>> Yelm, WA. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 7:11:39 AM UTC-7 fra...@gmail.com >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello! I picked up a Susie in the last run and have been using it as >>>>> my mountain bike. That said, I have not ridden a suspension bike in quite >>>>> a >>>>> while. I did see the email that a second run was going to happen. It was >>>>> supposed to be spring this year I think but since the ones I got didn’t >>>>> show up till then I’m sure it will be next year at this point, no mention >>>>> of them for a while. >>>>> >>>>> I haven’t ridden a Clem L so I can’t say, I do have a Clem H though. I >>>>> love my Clem! The H has a little bit steeper head tube, the new Clem L >>>>> seems to be a slightly closer spec to a Gus or Susie as far as head tube >>>>> angle and fork rake. >>>>> >>>>> My Susie feels like riding on a cloud compared to the Clem and I don’t >>>>> think it is just the tire size but I’m sure it plays a good part of it. >>>>> The >>>>> extra height of the BB on the Susie is very welcome in the chunky stuff as >>>>> well. The tubes on the Susie feel full of like and spring forward when I >>>>> get on it. I ride the Clem daily towing my daughter around and it is >>>>> perfect for that. Load the Clem up with whatever and it is stable as can >>>>> be. The Susie has more flex. Not sure if a Gus feels stiffer but I love >>>>> the >>>>> way the Susie rides. >>>>> >>>>> My Clem has an albatross bar and I have bosco’s on the Susie. So not a >>>>> fair comparison in upright sitting. The Susie is very upright and my Clem >>>>> not so much. Funny thing, I thought I was faster on the Clem. This week I >>>>> am using the Susie and I’m actually slightly faster on it while feeling >>>>> like I’m not working as hard. According to my gps data on my usual daily >>>>> routes. Only 2 days so far so I’ll see if that holds true all week. >>>>> >>>>> You won’t match a full squish bike on a Gus or Susie but the riding is >>>>> still a blast! Just different. I had a jones LWB complete and I would >>>>> definitely recommend the Susie over that. Jones makes a great bike in >>>>> theory, but I think they (the completes at least) are wastefully >>>>> overbuilt. >>>>> It was several lbs heavier than my Susie and the slowest I have ever been >>>>> while riding a bike. My Susie has a more plush ride than the Jones did and >>>>> is a better ride in all ways. >>>>> >>>>> Not sue I’ve said anything useful in my rambling but I highly >>>>> recommend the Susie! I’m sure the Gus is equally awesome though! I think >>>>> if >>>>> you have your Clem set up for commuting and the Gus/Susie set up for >>>>> trails >>>>> there isn’t too much of an overlap to justify one. >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 6:39:49 AM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Greetings all. First, does anyone recall reading in one of the >>>>>> updates about additional Susie / Gus bikes becoming available? >>>>>> Second, who is using their Susie / Gus as their primary mountain bike? >>>>>> Third, is anyone able to comments on a direct comparison between a >>>>>> Susie and a Clem L? >>>>>> My Clem never ceases to amaze me. It is, without doubt the most >>>>>> comfortable bike I have ever owned. I am so ingrained to my position on >>>>>> the >>>>>> bike that I am now uncomfortable on my dedicated singletrack bike - a >>>>>> full >>>>>> suspension bike with relatively strait handlebars. The Clem is really >>>>>> good >>>>>> off road and on mild singletrack, but its weight and flexibility have >>>>>> kept >>>>>> me from giving it a go on some of the rowdy, rock and root strewn tracks >>>>>> I >>>>>> like to ride on the full squish bike. >>>>>> Now, I have no illusions about any rigid bike being as plush and >>>>>> capable on these trails as the suspended bike. But I do have some >>>>>> experience riding a rigid bike with big tires (Jones 29") and I liked it. >>>>>> The notion of a bike that puts me in the exact same position as my Clem >>>>>> but >>>>>> dedicated to singletrack has me more than a little intrigued. >>>>>> Appreciate any comments / thoughts. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>> >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/d3327ab9-b417-4603-81ff-d2d52b8d90e4n%40googlegroups.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/d3327ab9-b417-4603-81ff-d2d52b8d90e4n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/kFwFcWlwyFQ/unsubscribe > . > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/0d473ab9-8df3-45a9-87f7-6480345e5f0bn%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/0d473ab9-8df3-45a9-87f7-6480345e5f0bn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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