I've done *longer* 15-70 miles on albatross, losco and bullmoose bosco with 
much success. most bars (notably drop) irritate my neck and shoulder any 
distance. I just got some toscos and am excited to try those out. 

On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 1:02:13 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:

> I've ridden drops, risers, straight bars and bullhorns on 15 plus mile 
> rides. My favorite are the Tosco bars that are currently on my Clem. I 
> think it may depend on the bicycle and your personal preference but for me 
> upright riding with a position to lean forward to occasionally stretch my 
> back is ideal. I also like ergonomic grips.
> Doug
>
> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 3:57:20 PM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> The bars I've found most comfortable for longer days in the saddle (which 
>> I define as 40 to 65 miles) are as follows:
>> Salsa Cowchipper 48cm (flared gravel drop)
>> Velo Orange Grand Cru Randonneur bars 48cm (more traditional drop but 
>> with a bit of flare and a very slight rise / sweep in the ramps)
>> Jones Loop bars 66cm (adventure-style bar with a nice sweep)
>>
>> I've also used Tosco / Bosco style swept-back bars, but like you, around 
>> 30 miles and I start to wish I had a different position.
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 3:25 PM Chris K <cmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Just a general question to the group: what handlebar do you like best 
>>> for rides longer than say, 15 miles?
>>>
>>> I assume many of you would say drops. So to refine the question a bit, 
>>> what non-drop bar do you like best for longer rides?
>>>
>>> Personally, almost all of my rides are in the 2-15 mile range. I run 
>>> bike errands and/or commute by bike in the city most days, accounting for 
>>> most of these miles. For this mileage and use, the Billie bar is a proven 
>>> winner for me. However, this summer I took a few 20-30 mile rides further 
>>> afield and felt myself wanting something different. Part of my problem is I 
>>> only have one bike - an around-town errand bike that is being asked to go 
>>> on longer rides on both pavement and gravel, and hills start to come into 
>>> play. The other problem is I want to stick with MTB levers and shifters. I 
>>> don't want to do a drop bar conversion. I did pick up both a Choco and a 
>>> Wavie to try out. No significant miles ridden with them yet though.
>>>
>>> Anyway, I know it comes down to personal preference and many other 
>>> factors. Nonetheless, I do wonder which of the Rivendell handlebars emerge 
>>> as favorites for longer riding?
>>>
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