Thanks for the replies. I guess the answer is... all of the above!

Billie, Choco, Albatross, Bosco, and some non-Riv options.
On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 11:39:57 AM UTC-6 David Pulsipher wrote:

> Albatross for everything. Have done four day tours with them, and short 
> rides. Everything in between. Super super comfortable.
>
> On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 10:23:36 AM UTC-6 larson....@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> In the past I have ridden mostly with drop bars and still do. I have done 
>> some touring with Jones loop bars, and like them very much. This spring I 
>> built up my first Riv, an Appaloosa, and chose Billie bars. I have come to 
>> believe these bars are the most comfortable of any bar I have tried. I have 
>> ridden up to about 60 miles, usually mixed terrain, and have no soreness in 
>> hands, shoulders or neck. I think that the flex in these bars with a quill 
>> stem is one of the factors. I tried bullmoose bars and liked them for 
>> off-road riding, but much stiffer and overall less comfortable for me.
>>
>> On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 8:58:24 AM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I have been waiting what feels like forever for those Billie bars to 
>>> come back in stock Eric! I like the Better sco quite a bit, but the forward 
>>> position isn’t great for me. Still very comfortable overall though. Just 
>>> can’t wait to try the Billie! I have the Albatross on my Clem H and they 
>>> are great, slightly more width and room to move should make them even 
>>> better. 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 4:21:28 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am happy to report that the 55 wide Bosco has proved itself for me. I 
>>>> routinely go 40’ish miles of mixed surface & as far as 60. I have felt as 
>>>> fresh at the end of these rides as at the start. I have no doubt that it 
>>>> (Bosco) is but one component of the Clem recipe; geometry, long & high 
>>>> stem, plush tires.., it seems a perfect blend.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 20, 2022, at 3:57 PM, Brian Turner <brok...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> The bars I've found most comfortable for longer days in the saddle 
>>>> (which I define as 40 to 65 miles) are as follows:
>>>> Salsa Cowchipper 48cm (flared gravel drop)
>>>> Velo Orange Grand Cru Randonneur bars 48cm (more traditional drop but 
>>>> with a bit of flare and a very slight rise / sweep in the ramps)
>>>> Jones Loop bars 66cm (adventure-style bar with a nice sweep)
>>>>
>>>> I've also used Tosco / Bosco style swept-back bars, but like you, 
>>>> around 30 miles and I start to wish I had a different position.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 3:25 PM Chris K <cmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just a general question to the group: what handlebar do you like best 
>>>>> for rides longer than say, 15 miles?
>>>>>
>>>>> I assume many of you would say drops. So to refine the question a bit, 
>>>>> what non-drop bar do you like best for longer rides?
>>>>>
>>>>> Personally, almost all of my rides are in the 2-15 mile range. I run 
>>>>> bike errands and/or commute by bike in the city most days, accounting for 
>>>>> most of these miles. For this mileage and use, the Billie bar is a proven 
>>>>> winner for me. However, this summer I took a few 20-30 mile rides further 
>>>>> afield and felt myself wanting something different. Part of my problem is 
>>>>> I 
>>>>> only have one bike - an around-town errand bike that is being asked to go 
>>>>> on longer rides on both pavement and gravel, and hills start to come into 
>>>>> play. The other problem is I want to stick with MTB levers and shifters. 
>>>>> I 
>>>>> don't want to do a drop bar conversion. I did pick up both a Choco and a 
>>>>> Wavie to try out. No significant miles ridden with them yet though.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, I know it comes down to personal preference and many other 
>>>>> factors. Nonetheless, I do wonder which of the Rivendell handlebars 
>>>>> emerge 
>>>>> as favorites for longer riding?
>>>>>
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