Eric, I hope this doesn't derail your thread too much, but I though I might 
try to address your Tolkien question. As I'm sure many of us here are, I've 
long been a big Tolkien nerd, but I wouldn't consider myself an expert... 
I'd say I'm pretty well-versed, though!
I know Grant has always maintained that he named Rivendell BW out of his 
appreciation for the old Rivendell Mountain Works catalogs (no doubt a main 
inspiration for the Riv Readers and model catalogs / brochures). But then, 
he also has taken quite a few liberties with the Tolkien property names and 
references. Here's a short list of all the ones I can think of, but there 
may be others:

Rivendell: the magical refuge of the Elves in Middle Earth, where the 
Fellowship of the Ring is formed
Baggins: the surname of our Hobbit heroes, Bilbo and Frodo
Sackville: a an affluent branch of the Baggins family in the Shire, the 
Sackville-Bagginses
Bombadil: as in Tom Bombadil, a jovial character who helps the Hobbits out 
of a tight spot along their journey. He may be the oldest being in Middle 
Earth. Infamously NOT mentioned in the film adaptations, to the dismay of 
many fans.
Legolas: a Woodland Elf who was a member of the Fellowship of the Ring
Quickbeam: a young Ent who basically babysat and distracted Hobbits Merry 
and Pippin during the Ent Moot

Can anyone think of any obvious ones I'm missing here?

On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 10:50:45 AM UTC-5 E. Ricky Creek wrote:

> The Hunqapillar is named after a mailbox in Indiana, but the spelling is 
> different. Also, it might not be Indiana.
>
> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 9:31:34 AM UTC-6 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>
>> Thank you for starting this thread, Eric. Stoked to learn more about 
>> these two models. 
>>
>> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 7:16:08 AM UTC-8 [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> It seems the Bombadil and Hunqapillar frames are beloved. They're stout, 
>>> beautiful, and sometimes have intricate additional tubes and lugs. While 
>>> I've done a lot of reading about Rivendell I was a bit unclear on the 
>>> origins and intended uses of these frames. 
>>>
>>> I wanted to start a thread where we could share and dump info about 
>>> these bikes along with pictures of builds. 
>>>
>>> Joe and Jim were helpful in laying out a bit of background in another 
>>> thread 
>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/mkxv02ciCM4/m/KqWZOIMQAwAJ>,
>>>  there's 
>>> some great info there. 
>>>
>>> The original Hunqapillar catalog is up here: 
>>> http://notfine.com/rivendell/Brochures/Rivendell%20Frames%20Hunqapillar.pdf
>>>
>>> The first mention I can find of the Bombadil is in RR 41, sometime in 
>>> 2009. Excerpted pages attached. As a few members might recall I am very 
>>> into raw frames with brass spilling out of the lugs! I know that many 
>>> Bombadil owners have had their frames repainted like Jason Fuller, whose 
>>> absolute stunner shows up here from time to time. By the way, the picture 
>>> below is one of my very favorite Rivendell images. 
>>>
>>> [image: Jason Bombadil green.jpg]
>>>
>>> There's also the butter-banana Bombadil that recently sold on eBay. I 
>>> believe that one was purchased by John Watson of the Radavist (and he's got 
>>> a Hunq) so we might see some nice pics of that bike sometime soon. 
>>>
>>> [image: s-l1600-2.jpg]
>>>
>>> And speaking of, here's John's Hunqapillar, more images and write-up 
>>> here <https://theradavist.com/rivendell-hunqapillar-review/>.
>>>
>>> [image: Johns-Rivendell-Hunqapillar-29er-Klunker-76.jpg] 
>>>
>>> Are both of these frame names borrowing from Tolkien? I understand RBW 
>>> had to stop using Tolkien names. 
>>>
>>

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